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Darling Words

Poetry,
a collection of words.
assembled, just so.
Deep, dark words,
juxtaposed
with the common tongue.
Conveying complicated imagery
so clever, the words
wrapped in their emperor’s clothes,
become uncoordinated.
mismatched.
The ordinary things of life
are lost in metaphor.

Irritated by the overload,
the heavy word speak.
Fragments of a mind
far loftier than mine,
splattered across a page,
shouting their glory.
‘Look at me, Look at me
aren’t I just the cleverest thing ever?’
Darling words.

Perhaps, I just
‘don’t get’ modern, new wave,
intellectual emotion.
Perhaps, I can’t put
the shardy, word splinters
Into the right order,
to make them beautiful.
For me,
a spade will dig the hole
where my words,
watched and watered,
will blossom
and dance in the breeze.

Last few words: 
This is not based upon ANY of the poems I have read here, I have learnt so much from reading all the different styles, but I wrote this having looked up and read some of the winning poems in a poetry competition here in the UK. I didn't understand a great many of them, they just sounded like pretentious twaddle to me. Perhaps I'm just thick :-) but interesting question, what does make a poem great? What differentiates the ordinary from the extraordinary? Anyway, once again, please don't associate my comment with anyone here, it certainly would not apply, but surely everyone has read a poem at sometime that they think is just ridiculous. Jx
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Couldn't agree more....
enough said

Well written
Love judy
xxx

'Each for the joy of the working, and each, in his separate star,
shall draw the Thing as he sees It, for the God of Things as They are.'
(Rudyard Kipling)

Thanks Judy, glad you liked it. Jx

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the originators of new genres are usually much more palatable than those that jump on the band wagon...real v.s. pretenders

but, yes. Some nouveau schtick is schlock from the start.

you however, are one of the clearest writers of the day, and that is delicious to my poetic palate.

Al

I always was a bit literal - can't bear those art house films with meanings hidden so deep, no amount of digging will uncover them. And sawn off endings, leaving you wondering what on earth is going on.
Thank you for reading Al and thank you for the encouraging words. Jxx

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I like the literal....keeping the order...give me a Lion and a Jackal...the platypus and unicorn too scorn..Been watching CBC in my country...late nite television..its nothing but surreal strange...like Jabberwonky I call it...one after another last nite...and the genre is like modern art...about as practical as a hover car if true from the fifties! I remember the Simpsons cartoon when Homer gets the ad company to make a commercial for his snow plow business...a spoof on the cologne perfume cosmetic monopoly...it..the show within the show was ironic and had as much meaning!....I write way out there...like the hippies used too say when I was a kid growing up....Far Out man! most of them went corporate! I should be more literal and use proper punctuation! it is sinful to not use it...like a freeway without signs or white lines....it just becomes a race track! a bloody derby! the mockery! thank U for the insight!

I'm amazed I missed that particular Simpsons we had to eat, sleep and breathe them when my kids were growing up.
A freeway without signs......... I like that.

To punctuate
Or not to punctuate
That is the question.

Does it really matter in the great scheme of things?

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apostrophes and clauses
clap up the court
without the miscellaneous
brand of dashes dots
hyphens commas too
indent

sometimes proper is
well..proper
but Im not proper
a scoundrel
at the best!!

an artful dodgy dodger
the ad was Mr Plow!
pretty sure it was making
fun of New York
but I confess I do love
Donetella Vesace..."my house..
my rules"

I do feel guilty for throwing
away my extra keys on
the laptop...and I do know
how to use punctuation!

exodus is a freeway without
signs
the liberty of poets
in rebellious rush
at least for the moment
.
thank U

Lol
Always loved a scoundrel and the odd rebellious poet :-)
Jx

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wit and sarcasm are so close
after awhile the tension is
madness..
and oft people get hurt!
anxious times!!
but the poor sods who
take it so serious
funny because im
equally as such
the quick so close
Ouch!!
but I cannot help it.
and God knows
I have tried!
:)

I would never hurt anyone's feelings intentionally, although I do have 3 left feet syndrome and a very wicked sense of humour :-)
Jxx

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You describe so aptly the sort of pretentious rubbish and me-ism that typified the first poetry site I discovered. Rhymers were merely tolerated and not by everyone.

Keith Logan
the happy chappy
https://www.neopoet.com/community-guidelines

Thanks Keith, I think I've looked at one or two sites like your first one, they left me feeling depressed.
This one however, is choc full of interesting people and great poetry. I like that we're all different, otherwise how would we learn and move on. Jxx

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Join now and have ur poems published..Be famous!
I did for a time belong to chatter sites
Scatter sites I called them run by egotists and
thinly veiled efface of intelligence
I got booted...
talk about feeling alienated after that run..
no wonder all the greats suffered I thought
having to type all their works perfect
and cranking out work...stacks of rejections
and finally a cheque by busting your ass
to the top...Or those gifted who just kindly
put all their works in trunks..
"Oh no one will understand this magic work
I shall just exist and then pass on!..."
Or high school....my last great social existance
before the net....
poetry...just some fancy where everyone else
was gaining trades....working three jobs
if poetry was easy......I would have given up
on this..

I was dirt poor..like I am again
and was not giving up...where was this group
of people...internet was made by nerds
and I hung around them in high school
and the few months of art school
Even the successful and beautiful there
..were deeply wounded but in a beautiful
way and they were not quitters
A gorgeous red head...tall pale freckled
with ringlets and fashionable clothes
was hanging out with a married young
man who ran a huge social art musuem
in the city where we went too school
the pang on her face when I told her
I had to work on my homework and not
let her take me...a poor wretch for
lunch....Or the son of the man who
managed the federal prison system
who wanted me to come and hang
out with real jazz musicians..again
I had homework.....No one talked
about art....just whom they were
living with....I was amazed...and
running out of dads cash....the
dream was soon over.....
Or I had a chance at designing
coins for a silver and gold company
and turned that down..no self
esteem....
but I kept going...found the net...
hung in there and found diaryland
and Neopoet.....
I couldnt believe it!!!
the coolest site ever!
not being a true poet my boss
who is a sucessful independent
maker of orthotic and employees
the most brightest talents said
he loved having an artist and
poet at his work....(no mention
of my skills which were reduced
to that of cleaning...which is ok
for me...) one of the greatest
compliments....
Or my ex's who still love me
and say Im weird and have
this addictive qaulity outside
the darkside which fights
with trying to be good!
and incredible journey..

the flat effect of one hand
clapping...those sites
but this site...this has the
best ideals and format for
true poetic jaunt and vents

even in my city most people
view poetry like some exotic
form..like its alien and talk
quietly about it....
like artists are dangerous
which in some social countries
they are!

I know I am crazy
and to be able to write
has saved me
This site IS my world
other then my other
world here in the
city

so nice to be here
and read poetry
and comments
such as this!

Esker what can I say, you have really struck a chord with me.
I haven't always had an art background or my poetry to fall back on. I was bought up in an academic family, where the only poets we came across were the ones we did at school. none of my family write poetry, they don't even read it, mine included.
So I bumbled along, became a teacher, did quite well, but kept having disastrous relationships which resulted in three husbands (not all at the same time I might add). Currently with no. 4, except he won't marry me because he says my track record is rubbish (I have paraphrased there, rubbish wasn't the word he used) :-)
I had post natal depression, followed by clinical depression and was pretty ill for a while. I left teaching, and started a wine business, that resulted in me losing £25,000 and husband no.2. Went back to teaching, - nervous breakdown, started a glass fusing business. Lasted about 8 years, made very little money, but managed to put my kids through uni and really enjoyed it.
Then back to teaching until my heart decided to go haywire and stop. Not ideal. Total heart block - pacemaker fitted. Back to work and hey presto heart playing up again, so currently off work.
I don't think I'd be writing poetry at all if it weren't for watching my dad die in hospital, it was awful and all of a sudden I was writing about it. Then I couldn't stop. Each poem seem to write itself, the flow was continual.
I did look at a couple of sites and some competitions hence my 'darling words' poem they were all just pseudo intellectuals, air kissing and bathing in some hierarchical glory.
Not my bag.
Here on Neopoets there are so many different people and styles of writing, which has now totally thrown my writing out, as I try and take it all in, but, one thing I have seen here, every one is real. I mean a normal (?) thinking, blood and guts human being and not some arty pretender.
I like it here, I hope I can stick around.
Jxx

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I certainly hope you stick around. I suspect what you have written about your own experience can be reflected in many members on this site. That's what shapes people into the kind of sharing poets we have here.
PS: did I mention that the title of your poem is so apt it is classic.

Keith Logan
the happy chappy
https://www.neopoet.com/community-guidelines

That's true Keith. I think this site is special.
Incidentally, I may be off line for a couple of weeks as on Friday (heart willing) we are going to the Lake District for a couple of weeks in the caravan. I'm hoping to commune with nature and all that stuff and write some really good stuff.
Internet connection could be rather hit and miss!
Just didn't want anyone thinking I had abandoned the site.
Jx

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and bring us back a nature poem or three.

Keith Logan
the happy chappy
https://www.neopoet.com/community-guidelines

I never imagined after reading the title that I was about to read an innovative write on the theme of how words and word usage impact the poem, the imagery and thought provocation. You have explored this in pretty creative verses....there are many of them, hard to pick one...one of the many which caught the eye was "Wrapped in their emperor’s clothes"...thanks for posting this one...you made me read it more than once...

Regards,

raj (sublime_ocean)

Thank you Raj for reading the poem - even more than once. :-)
I don't know about you, but I find that sometimes the poems almost write themselves, I am just the instrument to commit them to paper - or disc. this was one of those poems. Jx
PS very nice to meet you. Jx

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Yes, I do agree that often the poems almost write themselves, from thoughts, feelings, emotions, events witnessed; sort of staying in an embryonic stage for a while in the sub conscious before taking birth. At other times it is a spontaneous phenomenon when they flow like rapids unabashed. It is also about having a good vocabulary and easier for those whose mother tongue is the language in which they write. But at times there are weird situations like "writer's block" where words sort of suffocate before finding a vent...i for one struggle with strict forms of poetry...like iambic meters, soft syllables, hard syllables and so many of them...honestly I almost had a nervous break down when I kept trying some of them...lol...

I don't recall the name of a very accomplished poet here, i think from Norway who had written a very interesting blog..if I happen to find it I will certainly share it with you...

Regards,

raj (sublime_ocean)

here is the link to the blog I mentioned in my comment above, which you might find interesting

https://www.neopoet.com/nordic-cloud/blog/mon-2014-01-27-1334

raj (sublime_ocean)

Thank you, I will read it. Jx

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Hi Raj
You have just hit a button. I'm in the 'weird situation' phase and nothing is flowing. My natural style has deserted me (for the moment) as I've been exploring triolets, ballads and even doggerel.
I'm going to the lake District for a couple of weeks on Friday (Wordsworth country) and not going to think about poetic forms, just let the moment take me wherever.
I think I write much better when the words flow freely and are not planned.
Writers block is a terrible curse :-)
Jx

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just got in from the road
a bud and I
simiar mothers..
and both from same
territory
dated his sister

we toured about
a large sheperd
large and mean
as a jackal except
to us

after fifteen years
sitting in this dusty
north town
to the rush of that
and shit happened
on the tour

then coming down
from this
it was something
just yet another
moment
and we both made
er through loopholes
just...
luck..
maybe something
more then the usual
if U believe in such
things....

we are alive
therefore we Live

happy to have met U
Jane and enjoy
these comments
the mutal storylines
I relate too
and although the
many journeys
you made more
travels then most
would risk
sucess or not
who else did
it.

I did
U did
and here

we all do

thank U!

enjoy your trip!

Mr Esker!

I certainly will Mr E. Just hope the muses are with me :-)
Jx

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I have a small ...
dull and silly mind

cannot concentrate
beyond 14 lines
as I am partially blind!

that's why I love sonnets
lovedly
new for thee

no last three lines
are not a haiku

I hate counting syllables
silly one's
once did it

Reading your poetry Lovedly, you have any thing but a small, dull, silly mind.
I hate counting syllables too, it totally removes creativity, or at least it does for me. But then, perhaps I'm just not an experienced enough poet to work within a tight frame.
It's a bit like wine tasting (I once had a wine business in amongst). Once you start to break a wine down and analyse it, you stop enjoying it, because you can only see its individual parts and not the whole thing.
I think poetry is rather the same.
Thank you for dropping by and contributing.
Jx

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I have to disagree with you here :-)
One does not count syllables per se
poetry is meter
- think of music

If you study up on meter and practice forms, it eventually becomes a natural way of writing....

I think you have a natural ear for meter, and with just a little research it will fall into place for you....

Love judy
xxx

'Each for the joy of the working, and each, in his separate star,
shall draw the Thing as he sees It, for the God of Things as They are.'
(Rudyard Kipling)

rather than compose poetry
which comes out like red wine
from within me
like a fountain spewing
no, not water
but red wine
from vineyards which
possess or possessed thee

your range of poetry
is a delicacy,
lady
send some crates of wine for me
but for abs FREE..
pardon me!.

You'll be lucky, I've drunk it all........ :-)
Got some gin though....!
Jx

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Hi Judy nice to hear from you and thanks for commenting, I appreciate it.
Yes I have a little understanding of meter, iamb, dactyl etc and syllable count: pentameter, tetrameter, trimeter, mostly remembered from what I learnt at school. I didn't think about this when I was writing, I just wrote. It's now I am thinking about it, I feel a bit stuck - as you say, with a bit more practice, it will fall into place..
I was thinking of Haiku when I made my comment initially above, it's not a form I bond with.
But then the wine analogy occurred to me - at the moment I am looking into all sorts of different techniques and styles. probably gone into overload a bit and instead of enjoying writing, am forcing it, to fit in with a specific meter or poem format. I'm also reading poetry to see how it has been written, to break down meter and form and sometimes this analytical approach takes away the simple pleasure of just enjoying a good poem.
I'm just going to leave it all floating round in my head for a few days and some of what I've learned will permeate through in a natural way, but at the moment I'm forcing it and that doesn't make for good poetry - not from me anyway.
To me, it's all part of my journey as a poet.
It'll all come good in the end :-)
Now back to packing for my Wordsworth fix!
Jxx

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is to write, THEN go back and check the meter.... not try to write each verse into immediate submission ... and never be too particular - if it sounds as you want it to, then leave it...

Have an awesome holiday
love judy
xxx

'Each for the joy of the working, and each, in his separate star,
shall draw the Thing as he sees It, for the God of Things as They are.'
(Rudyard Kipling)

Yes, why didn't I see that straight away?
Rhetoric question, no need for answer :-)
Jxx

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Your effect on a number of poets has been excellent, your writing is new as it is true feelings and raw writes.
Esker though his works are sometimes hard to understand at first he seems to love your words and others that are here putting their comments.
This is how Neopoet should be and you have brought out a new life to this scene.
Thank you for your writes they are grand..
Take care, Yours as always Ian.x

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Give critique to help keep Neopoet great.
Unconditional love to you all.
"Learn to love yourself first"
Yours as always, Ian.T, Sparrow, and Yenti

Thank you Ian, you have made my day. Jx

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I have no trick or even method, I simply go with the flow. If it feels smooth then that's good enough for me. I could not even begin to analyze a poem in the formal descriptive terminology. I know what an iamb is and can recognise pentameter but very little else. I always intended to study form but have not yet got round to it. On the other hand, I don't fully understand the digestive system but I still eat.

Keith Logan
the happy chappy
https://www.neopoet.com/community-guidelines

We had meter, rhythm and form drilled into us at school, obvs a long time ago! A lot I can't remember, but it's coming back. I did an English module at uni which went into it a bit further, but again a long time ago. When I get bogged down with technicalities, my writing goes right off.
When I'm teaching poetry writing to 8-9 year olds, I try not to inhibit their writing by imposing restrictions on them. They write, then we look at the work and go back several times to edit and polish. I might talk about rhythm at this stage to see if it could be used to improve the piece of work and I might read specific poems, to show what effect rhythm has eg Night Mail. But at this age I want to instil a love of expression, rather than shackle and bind it. This happens over a year, so hopefully by the time they leave me, they are not afraid to write in poetic form and indeed enjoy it. Jx

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