About workshops

Workshops on Neopoet are groups that meet for a certain period of time to focus on a certain aspect of poetry. Each workshop participant is asked to critique all the other poems submitted into a workshop. A workshop leader helps coordinate -- they set the agenda, give participants feedback on whether their submissions and critique are at they level expected of them, and after the workshop is over, give feedback to participants. 

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UNFINISHED WORKS

Status: 
Program description/goal: 

Description: Help in finishing some poems which are well begun. Each participant will post one unfinished poem. Two other participants will be assigned to complete the poem. All will be accompanied by discussion.

Leader: scribbler
Moderarors(s): sparrow, weirdelf

Objectives: To show authors some ways in which their unfinished poem might be completed.....and hopefully have fun doing so.

Level of expertise: Open to all

Subject matter: Unfinished works

Very important:- Remember when posting to scroll down to 'Workshop' and select UNFINISHED WORK. Do not post poems on this page.

Length: 
90 days
Number of participants (limit): 
20 people
Skill level: 
Date: 
Wednesday, March 28, 2018 to Thursday, May 10, 2018

Comments

thanks

author comment

Add me please

"Poetry is music for the human voice. Until you actually speak it or someone speaks it, it has not come into it's own."
- Maya Angelou

you are welcome here

author comment

I've got a couple, one "Symptoms of Testosterone Part 2" was the most controversial piece I ever posted on Neopoet. Let's see how it goes this time.

There never was a Part 1, I was just screwing around.

cheers,
Jess
A new workshop on the most important element of poetry-
'Rhythm and Meter in Poetry'
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/rhythm-and-meter-poetry

This shop was intended to be intense but of short duration. I am sorry to say the response has been very limited and with my surgery deadline looming I don't think I will have time to do this subject justice. I am therefore closing it (regretfully) but hope to touch on this subject in the summer as I heal......stan

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Actually there was a lot of positive response, just not on this thread.

Best wishes for your surgery.

cheers,
Jess
A new workshop on the most important element of poetry-
'Rhythm and Meter in Poetry'
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/rhythm-and-meter-poetry

Check it out, I think has the potential to be the best I've ever run on the subject and only requires writing four four line poems, and some discussion.
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/basic-and-essential-meter

cheers,
Jess
A new workshop on the most important element of poetry-
'Rhythm and Meter in Poetry'
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/rhythm-and-meter-poetry

Stan

Well as the ones of mine that are unfinished get erased from this old memory, I will join you in having a go at sorting some unfinished for others..
Good Idea and I expect this workshop to rock!
Yours as always, Ian.

cheers,
Jess
A new workshop on the most important element of poetry-
'Rhythm and Meter in Poetry'
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/rhythm-and-meter-poetry

I am.
I more often write from the end backward. Lol.
But it is an interesting challenge.

IRiz

cheers,
Jess
A new workshop on the most important element of poetry-
'Rhythm and Meter in Poetry'
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/rhythm-and-meter-poetry

My muse many a time gets me

My muse many a time gets me amused when i can't shift it to next gear. Luckily it so far hasn't shifted to reverse gear...lol..
Mark

cheers,
Jess
A new workshop on the most important element of poetry-
'Rhythm and Meter in Poetry'
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/rhythm-and-meter-poetry

Oh dear God. I have this hump

Oh dear God. I have this hump on my back that I've been wrestling with for years.
Its not a poem as such, but rather song lyrics in the style of "Ian Dury and the block heads"
if there is relief from said hump to be had anywhere, take pity and point the way, I fear I may develop camel foot.

Obedia Gray.

cheers,
Jess
A new workshop on the most important element of poetry-
'Rhythm and Meter in Poetry'
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/rhythm-and-meter-poetry

I am interested as a new member

cheers,
Jess
A new workshop on the most important element of poetry-
'Rhythm and Meter in Poetry'
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/rhythm-and-meter-poetry

OK

Carry on. Let's continue the discussion here as to the reasons a poem might be begun then left unfinished. Ya'll have ideas why this might happen? PS now this is what I call REALLY participant driven lol. I'd suggest a few more day's discussion then begin posting unfinished poems one every other day in order in which participants signed up. Post poems on stream with (unfinished poetry) beside title.
Ian, if you don't mind why don't you assign the two members who are to complete each poem? Have them post their completed versions beneath each uncompleted poem on stream in the comments section. This way the uncompleted poem and both alternate completed versions can be viewed at one place.
As each completed version is posted then it can be commented upon and suggestions given.
At the end of the shop then each person who entered their incomplete poem will then use ideas given to complete their own poem. This author completed poem will then be posted on stream with (completed version) next to title.
PS I'll be around about one more week then will be AWOL for a while. I'll now change shop duration to ending sometime in june.........stan

cheers,
Jess
A new workshop on the most important element of poetry-
'Rhythm and Meter in Poetry'
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/rhythm-and-meter-poetry

As I have already posted to stream an unfinished poem I invite T. Harmonee to post an unfinished poem then we shall give guidance on each's write.
When both of us are satisfied or ready then we will invite the others in this group to Comment, I will send Harmonee a message, so that Harmonee is aware of what is going on.
I am short of time on the site at the moment so just bare with me, but I will give 100% to this workshop, Yours Ian..

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Give critique to help keep Neopoet great.
Unconditional love to you all.
"Learn to love yourself first"
Yours as always, Ian.T, Sparrow, and Yenti

may I include you as a Moderator for this workshop?

cheers,
Jess
A new workshop on the most important element of poetry-
'Rhythm and Meter in Poetry'
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/rhythm-and-meter-poetry

Thank you it is acceptable for me to be a Moderator for this workshop, and will assist as much as I can.
Take care, Yours as always, Ian..

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Give critique to help keep Neopoet great.
Unconditional love to you all.
"Learn to love yourself first"
Yours as always, Ian.T, Sparrow, and Yenti

Jess if it is possible would you like to partner IRiz
IRiz is an exceptional poet and I think that you would like to be there with your Knowledge, Please PM IRiz , to set up the start of your submissions, if this is OK with you.
I will leave the next four poets to your choice, se I am being bad again lol,
Take care and know I am here, I will look at your workshop but cannot say how much I can do, Anne is not good at the moment, and it takes me away from the Comp:
Yours as always Ian..

.
Give critique to help keep Neopoet great.
Unconditional love to you all.
"Learn to love yourself first"
Yours as always, Ian.T, Sparrow, and Yenti

Yes she would be great.

Irene? Can you spare the time to work with me finishing Ian's

cheers,
Jess
A new workshop on the most important element of poetry-
'Rhythm and Meter in Poetry'
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/rhythm-and-meter-poetry

I have asked you to partner Irene, to have a look at each others unfinished poems,
If we split up into pairs initially then as we become satisfied with the outcome, then near the end of the workshop, all completed poems can be streamed and all participants can comment on the final poems.
So your unfinished poem and Irene's can now be sorted between you two.
Yours as always, Ian..

.
Give critique to help keep Neopoet great.
Unconditional love to you all.
"Learn to love yourself first"
Yours as always, Ian.T, Sparrow, and Yenti

as I said in my last comment. I don't know if she is too busy to do it.

So far only you, Stan and I have posted unfinished poems to work on.

cheers,
Jess
A new workshop on the most important element of poetry-
'Rhythm and Meter in Poetry'
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/rhythm-and-meter-poetry

Number one for me anyway lol. I get an idea for a poem which includes both a surface and secondary message and even have a good starting line. So in I dive and start writing, setting the scene and mood, maybe even manage to personify the write to the reader. So I'm well begun................
then here comes that little problem : poetry is not an essay in which one can simply use plain prose to wrap things up. The wrap up (and usually the core message) must be put into a poetic form. And for me this also usually requires that the form be rhyming western classic. So there I am....stuck because I can't figure out and ending which rhymes, conveys both a surface and underlying message , and most importantly get the message out in POETIC form...............stan

author comment

but I haven't see you contribute anything to the discussion. Perhaps you don't finish poems because you get bored. "Boredom is a failure of effort and imagination"- Alex Machette

Stan and Ian and I have submitted poems, you see them by clicking on- Most recent poems >> View all poems submitted to this workshop.
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/view/22951
Would you like to volunteer to help with one of them?

Do you have a poem to submit you would like help with? If so remember to scroll down to the 'Workshop' drop-down and select 'UNFINISHED WORK' before saving.

Do you have any constructive suggestions for improving the workshop? It sometimes takes a while for workshops to build up momentum.

cheers,
Jess
A new workshop on the most important element of poetry-
'Rhythm and Meter in Poetry'
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/rhythm-and-meter-poetry

I almost deleted this contest due to health but was talked into letting it continue even though I'd be awol for a considerable time. Boring? Where is Your idea of why a poem might be begun then abandoned? This shop is just now really getting cranked up and it is going to be participant driven with only minimal direction provided by the shop leader(s) so if you find it boring the reason might be looking at you in your mirror lol.

author comment

I see that you are not happy with this workshop, your partner will be, "raj" so if you would contact him and arrange the joining of you both for your unfinished poem, and his.
If you read what Stan has put on about the old poets and how they helped each other in many ways then I think that the point of this workshop will become clear.
I remember a bit about the birth of Frankenstein where the poets and writers of those days mostly men would gather, and ask the dutiful wife to tend to their food and drink, where one day she said to them that she to could write and this is where that great book came from, a joining of poets and how they came to realise that it was better to cooperate with all people,
Yours, ian..

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Give critique to help keep Neopoet great.
Unconditional love to you all.
"Learn to love yourself first"
Yours as always, Ian.T, Sparrow, and Yenti

Would you like to PM Raj to partner him in the initial part of this workshop.
You can swap an unfinished poem between you and see if you can sort out any problems.
In a week or so we will comment on the finished poems that have been sorted between you both.. Hope this is OK for you to continue with the workshop,
Yours, Sparrow..

.
Give critique to help keep Neopoet great.
Unconditional love to you all.
"Learn to love yourself first"
Yours as always, Ian.T, Sparrow, and Yenti

I know you all have thoughts on why a poem might be left uncompleted. Maybe you can even think of a poem or two which is famous BECAUSE it was never completed?.......stan

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ting[edit]

Coleridge, 1814
In September 1797, Coleridge lived in Nether Stowey in the south west of England and spent much of his time walking through the nearby Quantock Hills with his fellow poet William Wordsworth and Wordsworth's sister Dorothy;[4] (His route today is memorialised as the "Coleridge Way".[5]) Throughout the autumn, he worked on many poems, including "The Brook" and the tragedy Osorio. Some time between 9 and 14 October 1797, when Coleridge says he had completed the tragedy, he left Stowey for Lynton. On his return, he became sick and rested at Ash Farm, located at Culbone Church and one of the few places to seek shelter on his route.[4]

Coleridge described how he wrote the poem in the preface to his collection of poems, Christabel, Kubla Khan, and the Pains of Sleep, published in 1816:

In the summer of the year 1797, the Author, then in ill health, had retired to a lonely farm house between Porlock and Linton, on the Exmoor confines of Somerset and Devonshire. In consequence of a slight indisposition, an anodyne had been prescribed, from the effects of which he fell asleep in his chair at the moment that he was reading the following sentence, or words of the same substance, in 'Purchas's Pilgrimes:' 'Here the Khan Kubla commanded a palace to be built, and a stately garden thereunto: and thus ten miles of fertile ground were inclosed with a wall.'

The Author continued for about three hours in a profound sleep, at least of the external senses, during which time he has the most vivid confidence, that he could not have composed less than from two to three hundred lines; if that indeed can be called composition in which all the images rose up before him as things, with a parallel production of the correspondent expressions, without any sensation or consciousness of effort. On awakening he appeared to himself to have a distinct recollection of the whole, and taking his pen, ink, and paper, instantly and eagerly wrote down the lines that are here preserved. At this moment he was unfortunately called out by a person on business from Porlock, and detained by him above an hour, and on his return to his room, found, to his no small surprise and mortification, that though he still retained some vague and dim recollection of the general purport of the vision, yet, with the exception of some eight or ten scattered lines and images, all the rest had passed away like the images on the surface of a stream into which a stone had been cast, but, alas! without the after restoration of the latter:

Then all the charm
Is broken—all that phantom-world so fair
Vanishes, and a thousand circlets spread,
And each mis-shape the other. Stay awhile,
Poor youth! who scarcely dar'st lift up thine eyes—
The stream will soon renew its smoothness, soon
The visions will return! And lo! he stays,
And soon the fragments dim of lovely forms
Come trembling back, unite, and now once more
The pool becomes a mirror.

Yet from the still surviving recollections in his mind, the Author has frequently purposed to finish for himself what had been originally, as it were, given to him. but the to-morrow is yet to come.

As a contrast to this vision, I have annexed a fragment of a very different character, describing with equal fidelity the dream of pain and disease.[6]

author comment

However only three have been posted to the workshop, yours, Stan and mine. Members need to post their unfinished poems, remembering when posting to scroll down to 'Workshop' and select the UNFINISHED WORK drop-down.

cheers,
Jess
A new workshop on the most important element of poetry-
'Rhythm and Meter in Poetry'
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/rhythm-and-meter-poetry

Cant understand why our poets join this workshop and just stop doing anything, now we know what frustration is.
I have tried to see what they are up to and PM'd the pairs to get them started, meanwhile we can have a go with Stan until our partners post something. Take care have to go run out of time this morning,
Yours Ian..

.
Give critique to help keep Neopoet great.
Unconditional love to you all.
"Learn to love yourself first"
Yours as always, Ian.T, Sparrow, and Yenti

authors. This should be done approx. 2 every other day and the order should follow the order in which participants are listed on the shop page.

author comment

could you count me in.

Eumolpus
I'd rather learn from one bird how to sing
than teach ten thousand stars how not to dance
ee cummings

join the conversation....stan

author comment

can you add Eumolpus to the main names list, then we can allocate a partner to start with..
Yours Ian..
The names so far are:-

1 - Sparrow and T Harmonee
2 - Jess and IRiz with Eumolpus.
3 - Raj and Drey Harmonies
4 - Obedia Grey and Pointless Writer..
"All Poets", please contact via PM your partners, to arrange which poem you are going to work on during the first week or so of this workshop..

At the same time all can assist with Scribblers unfinished piece, with some useful comments on his write..
This will give us an idea who is working..
Any other poets will be added by edit to this reply if that's OK with you all..
So lets get down to starting this workshop, I usually copy any poem to work on to word, then copy back, each to their own,
Yours, Sparrow..

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Give critique to help keep Neopoet great.
Unconditional love to you all.
"Learn to love yourself first"
Yours as always, Ian.T, Sparrow, and Yenti

Put him on list last night...........well, I tried to put him there. Let me try again.

OK he's there now, sorry for delay

author comment

For this workshop would you please start off with Jess and IRiz and swap unfinished works with them and then in a week or so we will all comment on your results.
Hope this is OK with you and enjoy the workshop.
Yours Sparrow

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Give critique to help keep Neopoet great.
Unconditional love to you all.
"Learn to love yourself first"
Yours as always, Ian.T, Sparrow, and Yenti

you

author comment

I have an unfinished work i would love someone to finish. do I just post? There is no mention of the workshop at the bottom of the "submit a poem" in "workshop".

Eumolpus
I'd rather learn from one bird how to sing
than teach ten thousand stars how not to dance
ee cummings

You should wait for me, Jess or Ian to tell it's time to post. Then post it on stream with (unfinished poetry) next to title then hit workshop tab at bottom of page.

author comment

Please connect with Mark by PM to combine your help for each other, When enough time has passed we can then submit the completed poems to the workshop in the original state and the combined effort so that all of us can see the result and comment on what has taken place,
Yours, Sparrow..

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Give critique to help keep Neopoet great.
Unconditional love to you all.
"Learn to love yourself first"
Yours as always, Ian.T, Sparrow, and Yenti

Click the Workshop drop-down and you will see 'Open to new participants - UNFINISHED WORKS
Click on that.

cheers,
Jess
A new workshop on the most important element of poetry-
'Rhythm and Meter in Poetry'
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/rhythm-and-meter-poetry

So we can sort out who helps who.

IMPORTANT! Do not post them on this thread! Post them as normal to the Stream but scroll down to the 'Workshop' drop-down and select 'Open to new participants- UNFINISHED WORKs'

cheers,
Jess
A new workshop on the most important element of poetry-
'Rhythm and Meter in Poetry'
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/rhythm-and-meter-poetry

or else you forgot to check the UNFINISHED POEMS workshop when you posted.
Drey Hommies
Sparrow
IRiz
raj
Obadiah Grey
pointless_writer
Eumolpus

cheers,
Jess
A new workshop on the most important element of poetry-
'Rhythm and Meter in Poetry'
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/rhythm-and-meter-poetry

I know I am late, but would welcome the chance to post a poem that is a work-in-progress that literally stopped in its tracks on the middle of line. And it would be nice to have some direction on poems I should give my critiquing attention too, so the assigning strategy sounds good.

Kelsey

Critique, don't comment.

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and most welcome.

cheers,
Jess
A new workshop on the most important element of poetry-
'Rhythm and Meter in Poetry'
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/rhythm-and-meter-poetry

Mine was checked and appears at the bottom (workshops). Not seeing?

Eumolpus
I'd rather learn from one bird how to sing
than teach ten thousand stars how not to dance
ee cummings

To find all the poems submitted to the workshop look to the top right of the page and see-

Most recent poems
.
.
.

>> View all poems submitted to this workshop [click on that or go straight to]-
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/view/22951

cheers,
Jess
A new workshop on the most important element of poetry-
'Rhythm and Meter in Poetry'
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/rhythm-and-meter-poetry

and welcome.

cheers,
Jess
A new workshop on the most important element of poetry-
'Rhythm and Meter in Poetry'
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/rhythm-and-meter-poetry

I am returned
to haunt the site yet
still sans much
of worth to offer.
Pain Meds.
dulling my typing
as well as imagination.
Just a note of thanks to those who have picked up my load
during my being awol.................stan

author comment

then have someone knock on your door and interrupt you before you finish writing it, cf "Kubla Khan"

ps do NOT double your dose, I was only kidding and ghost writers do not write well.

cheers,
Jess
A new workshop on the most important element of poetry-
'Rhythm and Meter in Poetry'
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/rhythm-and-meter-poetry

this is a worthwhile workshop.

cheers,
Jess
A new workshop on the most important element of poetry-
'Rhythm and Meter in Poetry'
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/rhythm-and-meter-poetry

if anything I'm being overly cautious with dosages. You know what a control freak I am and controlling oneself comes first. But............
I an the one called Kubla Stan
Look upon my works and despair ! lmao

author comment

I'd like to submit my first ever poem but don't know how? Can someone help me please x

I assume you mean you want to submit it to the workshop. If this is so you must first ask to be included in workshop. Upon being told you are now a participant then just enter your poem on stream with (unfinished workshop) next to title and go to bottom of submission page and hit the "workshop" tab. Holler back if you need further help

author comment

It's good that you have shown an inclination to join the stream of Neo. I am sure you will pick up some good gold nuggets here...It is good to be part of a community...
..........................................................................

raj (sublime_ocean)

as meaning you would like to join the workshop so have added you as a participant.
To clarify what scribbler said, when you post the poem scroll down to 'Workshop', which is a dropdown, not a tab, click on that then select 'Open to new participant - UNFINISHED WORKS' then preview then save.
I look forward to it,

cheers,
Jess
A new workshop on the most important element of poetry-
'Rhythm and Meter in Poetry'
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/rhythm-and-meter-poetry

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