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Any proposal/input about believing and faith , about what is before this life and after and the relation between the before and the after should have two essential characteristics to initially be thought of, accepted and later on to form a solid basis for deep and concentrated thinking:

1 This input/proposal should be convincing and acceptable to the human brain and always be built on rational basis: e.g it is never acceptable to think of an ant to be a god because it is unable to protect it-self in first place so how about protecting and helping you as a human being.

2. That input/proposal should comply with the human instincts so as to meet our needs which is part of our human nature.
For example, if someone tells you you're not allowed to possess any properties
this would be against any instincts built with us .

What waits us is something great. What waits us is either NOTHING (as atheists believe) or extreme Hell and Heaven.
Doesn't that deserve some few minutes, days , years of searching because it is at the end it is us who will be either the winners or the losers.

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I watched the vids you posted earlier, are you asking for
a debate?

as long as it aims to a better understanding

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As you've most likely deduced, I'm not an intolerant
atheist. The reason why is I understand the need to
believe there is something more, some order or purpose
to the seemingly chaotic world we share. I've been there,
searched for the answers and found the emptiness of
faith, an unquestioning belief in supernatural occurrences
that will never be attested to. For you and others that fact
is fine, you believe all will be revealed when you die, Heaven
will greet you ... that gives you "purpose and order". For me
it is man's arrogance, the need to be something more than
the speck of life we are, whirling on the small rock we're on
that we share with millions of other galaxies.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
To be quite honest I don't know much about athiesm ..I never confronted any in my surrounding. I've been born a Muslim and I consider my self blessed for this fact.BUT, even Muslims are never guranteed to be greeted to the Heaven. Only our deeds, faith, worshipping and believing in The Day of Judgment, and ..and and many many other factors are mere indications that someone is working hard to go to the heaven or is working against what we ARE ordered by God to do, so he/she is more likely to go to the hell.
We are all born with some amount of arrogance that might mislead us sometimes, but there are too, many things that tell you- that there should be someone who is stronger than us as humans and this whole universe that puts things in order no one of human abilities can do it and it is more likely not able to be put in order by its own.

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While the probabilities of there being a creator
are 50/50 (the inability to either prove or disprove)
the end result is our evidence is life itself. Life is
complex, the universe is vast, unimaginably so
and the complexities are unknown. If that leads
you to a creator, you're not by yourself, these very
ideas have floundered all religions. What it leads me
to is more questions, I cannot accept that a creator
able to create this vastness would desire or need our
adornment, that is mankind's spin. I believe we should
treat others, of all faiths, creed, nationality or gender as
our family, for we are all connected on our journey.

Atheism is simply the non-belief in god or gods, that is
the one thing that we (atheists) agree on, everything else
is debatable.

God doesn't need us. We need God. The difference in faith however doesn't mean that we can't live as humans together through this journey..All I was trying to present are some thoughts for those who are in continuous search for God, the creator of the universe.
I can simply see him in everything around me. In the babies in their mothe's wombs, the tiny creatures.....etc.(endless list) and can't see how any can deny His presence and relate anything to science or to the universal abilities.

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the 50/50 percentage, is only possible when the evidences are equal. What are the evidences that there are no God, a creator of this universe?

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It is the lack of evidence to substantiate
either that makes them equal out,
what evidence do you or anyone have
that would make a believer out of me?

If God doesn't need our adornment, then
why is it required, through faith, to love without
question? If God created everything and everyone,
how could anyone believe that he/she/it would
condone the murder of his/her creations.

If God truly exists, why would he/she give us
free will to choose, then throw us in an everlasting
fire for using it?

the evidence I don't really. As I said if I can see God in every around me. In me and the plants , the animals.
If you don't want to see or if you can't see so sorry, I can't really help more . You are not free to choose completely. After sending His massengers, you're obliged to believe . The age of miracles is almost finished. If you really care not to be thrown in an everlasting fire you have to search and find Him. You need only to open your mind and heart while looking for Him. I am, as I said before not "an agitator" or a preacher and it is up to you as I clarified earlier in my first post, you'll be either a loser or a winner.

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I would never think of you as an "agitator",
we are simply having a discussion, hopefully
a mutually beneficial one.

You see God in the beauty of life, I see the
beauty of life. A person that lives long enough
cannot escape the beauty or the tragedy of life,
they are both here.

The threat of the everlasting fire doesn't frighten
me, it is physically impossible to burn forever,
logic tells me that a creator capable of this complex
world would not levy this sort of punishment,
so even if I were to believe, it could never be in one of
the accepted ruthless, jealous and immoral beings
that now throne the "god" series.

The logic doesn't always work. The fact that there is an everlasting fire and burning for anyone who doesn't believe in the creator and an eternal Heaven for those who submit and believe in the presence of a creator to this whole universe- IS true and these things could be beyond the human imagination but if you have the faith that there is a creator for this universe, for me and you and everything around, then you find that the Hell (burning forever ) and the Heaven are just simple things to be compared.
But why do you always insist on the bad side(the Hell )and the punishment? There are also promises for an eternal enjoyment in the Heaven.
Richard , May I ask you if someone broke let's say a TV set or a telephone or even a toy and you decided to repair it , you went and fetch the necessary tools and when you came back you found the thing repaired and someone told you it is repaired by itself , what would you say then?Do you believe it?

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The reason I posted here wasn't because I was
searching or found the link beautiful (which it was
and can see how it could move those that are already
indoctrinated), but it was because of your first posting.

This input/proposal should be convincing and acceptable to the human brain and always be built on rational basis:

Rationality, in my mind and many others, won't allow the
supernatural ideology to enter, not when all else is founded
to be of natural occurrences. You use an interesting analogy
with the broken phone because that kind of thing does
happen, seemingly anyway. Strange things occur without a
true explanation. My rationality or logic would believe that
the phone would most likely have the same problem again,
in your analogy, did God break the phone only to fix it? What
if it breaks again, is that because I didn't believe.

I'm not focused on Hell but all believers are and are quick to
remind me where I'm going, at least in their eyes. I find the whole
idea archaic, how could man know the heart of a creator of this
magnitude? Why would this creator demand adornment or praise,
it doesn't make sense to me at all. What would he/she get from
this?

That only scratches the surface, when I study religions I find God
to be vengeful, that is human behavior, in fact it all is and not very
good humans either. There are good teachings in all religions but
to promote one or the other to the point of killing people of different
faiths or ideas is archaic and inhumane, certainly not God-like.

that I've used here contradicts with those who believe in the supernatural forces.
I could see the broken phone, toy or the broken TV set same as the universe before we have this life. I can't imagine that the universe is put into order without someone really put everything in its place. The broken toy is just the same, it can't be repaired by itself. No sound human brain will believe it.

Again your view of the creator as if a one who wants to revenge is not a comprehensive one. He is also merciful and forgiver for those who repent and regret their bad deeds.

Why does a god ask our praise? I think it is same as why any boss would be liked to be praised by his employees. Won't you praise your boss if he deserves to be praised. The creator is the same. At least He is and only Him deserved to be praised for all the blessings he gave and is giving through out our life.

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The order is what you believe you see. From the moment of
conception chaos is in control, 2 to 4 million sperm and only
one makes it in, miracle of chaos or a miracle of God? The same
holds true for many species. Order, I question the very thought of
it.

My view of the creator accepted by millions is very comprehensive,
merciful unless, forgiven unless, loved unless ... and then the everlasting
unforgiven punishment implemented, vengeance is a human trait.

If my boss deserved praise, he or she would get it but I've also walked
out of jobs where the boss not only didn't deserve any credit for anything
I might do but certainly didn't appreciate my time and well being ....

and again, human behavior. The accepted religions of today are written
over 2000yrs ago, when man had little idea of the vastness of which we
are but a small part of. They wrote about God's and put human behaviors
on them, wasn't rational then and certainly isn't rational today.

This debate might go for centuries without any use. Is it leading to NOTHING but again and again blaming the Creator for the everlasting punishment. He sent us messangers with miracles through out the ages. Some believe his messangers ,some didn't. Then comes the punishment.it is never a revange but a punishment.

I am sorry. But if you can't see, if you don't open your heart together with your eyes, all the words are but useless. I just hope that you don't regret it one day.

One last question if you don't mind please,
Do you believe in Death ? If so, what do you believe comes after death ? Do you have any perspective for that?

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Either way it is severe, unjust and quite frankly unbelievable.
If a man goes through life treating people fairly, not killing anyone,
doing right by his family but doesn't have faith in God he is doomed
to burn for infinity, yep, can't quite grasp that one.

Death is inevitable, all living creatures die. I do not believe there is
an afterlife other than what we leave through our children. I'm fine
with that and don't expect anything after I die as my time will be
over and my little circle complete.

without punishment at the afterlife then every one wants to do what He/she wants to do and without being punished.Imagine if we don't have prisons in this life would be a real chaos

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Just a comfort in denial of the face of this beautiful, and yes, uncaring universe. Call it Zeus, Allah, Jesus, Odin, they are just human lies.
And cowardly lies that divide people and cause wars.

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I shall always have faith that one day you'd change this view. I can't say more and can't but wish you the best of the best..
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

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There is not one person here or coming that can tell you what happens or the ins and outs of creation.
Or what happens to anything once it becomes non physical.
There is NO proof end of story.
If there ever was a point Zero, then nothing existed so lets just take it that the universe as we see it is from the eyes of mere man.
He cannot see more than a beginning and end to all things as this is his lot.
That the universe, if this is the only one there is is eternal and energy from it cycles for ever then that is good, seems a place that doesn't waste anything.
All of you can have a God or not it makes NO difference to the energy within the universe, or the others that may or not be there.
SO stop all this silly talk about religion as it proves nothing and our Scientists don't know much of eternity and eternal things they can only go on the Maths and the physical objects they can see or can estimate that is there.
We are all wasting valuable time and words in our own tiny worlds..
SO, the aim of all of you should just be to accept each other in our hearts and minds, learn to get on with each other knowing there are differences.. Just love each other as we are all unique creatures and our physical beings are only here for a limited time,
I love you all with unconditional love always,
Yours Ian.T and Yenti and even Sparrow xxxxxxx

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There are a million reasons to believe in yourself,
So find more reasons to believe in others..

you're right . No one is arguing about being non able to live together in one universe despite being with different religions and/or nationalities and creeds. We do any way. BUT this doesn't mean that we should tell what we know about how our universe started and how we'll end. It seems to me that some people find it hard that there is a Creator and He told all about it in the Holy Qura'an . Not few scientists become Muslims when they discovered things mentioned nowadays but mentioned in The Holy Qura'an which was written before creation.
EVERYTHING is proved in the Qura'an but needs someone to read .

We should know that there sometimes we tread what we might think a right way but this doesn't mean there isn't a rightest way and hence is our discussion.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

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The Qura'an was written before creation? Rather a difficult thing
to do don't you think?

Not difficult for The Ceator, Richard
Yes it was written before the creation of the skies, the earth and Adam (peace be upon him)
It was written and preserved so that None and Nothing would change it.

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I'm at a loss as to what to say to that,
I've read some of the Qur'an but didn't
see that.

No disrespect intended but that just
defies all logic, I could never accept
an explanation like that and find it
difficult to believe that anyone else
could.

Do you believe in the presence of the Creator on the first place?

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I do not but admit freely that it cannot be proven
one way or the other. What I do know is the Earth
has been here a very long time and Man has no chance
of destroying it, we are not capable. What we are capable
of is destroying ourselves but Life will continue.

I believe that all religions are man made. Man cannot
accept that He is only here to carry Life on, it just isn't
enough for Him so He created God.

To date there are over 2800 Gods on the myth pile,
do you believe in Zeus?

Do you or have you studied any science? and how does
that correlate with your religion?

believe in the presence of the Creator , then sorry to say I can't hold on with this discussion any longer
because any thing beside this issue considered to be minor.
Thanks for your time.

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You've known the answer to that question for some
time, I don't hide the fact that I'm an atheist and we've
been having what I believed to be a mutually respectful
conversation.

I you've tired of the conversation then fine but please
don't take offense when none was intended.

Please,don't misunderstand me. I am not tired, I was really happy to talk to you to clarify a few things. May be I didn't expect how hard it is for you to understand or appreciate anything of what I am saying if you don't believe there is a Creator who puts this universe in order. That is one of the basics to continue our discussion. As I said if we don't agree on the basics minor things will remain minors.
Many thanks . No offense is taken indeed.

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The Qura'an was written before creation? Rather a difficult thing
to do don't you think?
This quote, it made me smile some.
I wonder if you have ever opened a Flatpack.
The first thing you see is the instructions.
Was it written before or after the creation of the contents of the box
Are the instructions ever the same to different people..
Can't think where this silly Idea came from..
Yours Sparrow La La
I am sorry I find all this discussion that will end up as Zero just a passing thing and I hope the pedal is to the floor on the gas that is..

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There are a million reasons to believe in yourself,
So find more reasons to believe in others..

All the great religions share one thing at least one thing in common. Free will. They put forth an ethos . They state ways in which we should relate to our fellows. Then they leave it up to the individual whether to follow these guidelines. In my opinion a religion which was created whole cloth from somebody's imagination would more likely say "Do it this way as all other ways are wrong". And this is the fallacy of religious extremists be they Christian, Mulim, Bhuddists, Hindu , or atheists. All true religions Depend of free will.

And make no mistake, evangelistic atheism is as much a religion as any other. Their beliefs are only that. As my beliefs are only that. Religious people and devout atheists both base their ethos on something which can not be proven. The religious will shout "You are damned for not believing!" But they have no real proof. The atheists will yell "Go ahead and damn me, as there is no afterlife to worry about!" They also have no proof.

So it seems to me both belief and non-belief is based on faith. And faith = religion.............stan

and thanks for sharing the discussion.
To say that each religion has its free-will was right untill the last messanger to end this freedom and its doctrines were very clear for everyone . It united many around the world with different religions but at the same time it left freedom if those who want to become Muslims or remain on their religions.So to say faith equals religion is not enough unless you believe in the creator the afterlife , the hell and the heaven and ...

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The difference is the Bible and the Qua ran both
prove their non-validity with their own scripture, both
fail miserably in logic and humane treatment of others,
the New Testament not as much but it derives itself from
the Old and does not cancel it out for it is God's word.

What can't be proven is the chance of an original creator.

As long as people are still dying throughout the world over
which one is the true religion, this subject is not only viable
but it needs to be talked about.

You can call Atheism a religion if you want to, it is the
non-belief in a god or gods, not a set of beliefs.

I have often heard that a religion is defined as belief in something which can't be proven. Well afterlife, a creator and devine interventions can't really be proven. But neither can the lack of them. An atheist hence bases his/her lack of belief on an unprovable assumption just as those who have religios beliefs. And I know many atheists who are so fervent in their disbelief that they put many evangelists to shame. I wonder if they are so fervent due to being insecure in their disbelief?

Now a lot of the religious atrocities (not all of them) need to be viewed in the context of the time in which they took place. Take the eye for an eye thing. It is now thought of as being excessively harsh. But at the time it was put forth it was a standard thing to kill those who killed a member of one's family. Oh yeah, then it was expected that the offender's family and friends would also be killed. So an eye for an eye was revolutionary in its leiniency.

And those who think religion has no redeeming qualities. People Must have some type guidance and/or rules to live by. And those put forth by most religions at the lest provide that. Indeed a lot of the U.S. constitution and most other western goverments is seeped in the 10 commandments. I don't recall who said it but I Do remember it being said that if there were no God, we'd have to invent one. Maybe scientology is the formal religion of atheists lol.............stan

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But yet you continue preaching your beliefs.Seems to me the only one here who is trying to change others to his/her beliefs is YOU. Pretty good sign of insecurity..................stan

I can back up everything I say with scientific evidence. Would you get angry with an architect building your house who insisted there were 89 degrees in a right angle? No, you would just sack them.
Would you get angry with someone who insisted 1+1=3? No, you would ignore the moron.

However if they tried to insist that what they were saying was true, you might get a bit strident. You would have no insecurity in knowing that there are 90 degrees in a right angle and that 1+1=2.

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Don'y you understand that your preaching non-belief is as rude as others preaching belief? You say there is no God? Prove it.....................stan

has some obnoxious values. Cherry pick as much as you like, ignore the Old Testament, The Koran, The flying spaghhetti Monster, they all suck at least to the the degree of not making the best of this life as the only one.So yes, I will be a rude, intolerant atheist, or secular humanist if you prefer.

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Why have all the "gods" invented by humankind been dead silent since scientific methodology?

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I wish
I only wish
you won't regret your words
and I wonder
I really wonder
how much could science help

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than any amount of wishes or prayers.
Wishes and prayers do nothing at all.

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I understand that you appreciate his work and therefore he could be a good friend but not a God.
God has characteristics that humans don't have.

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anything. You have it in the books if you care to read.

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put words in my mouth . I am so clear.

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is that they exist.

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Created the humans then ?

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why do some parents who have no biological problems, desire to have children, but aren't able to have children?

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can't have a child by themselves. Your mom and dad won't have you if God didn't want to.

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not a god . A BIG DIFFERENCE, for me at least.

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for sharing your thoughts too.

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you find another :)..God doesn't die. This is one main difference.

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are you :)?

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but I don't imagine we need to look for a new god everyday.
Hope no offense is taken.

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It seems to me that you know all the answers since you know what's written in the Bible and the Quraan which is always my reference ,never my words.

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if knowledge counts for anything.

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We don't make use of what we study, what't the use then?

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in every action I take and word I say. I take nothing on faith.

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will your Allah condemn to hell everyone who doesn't believe in him?

If so that is the act of a god worth fighting and rejecting, even if it's like standing alone before an army of tanks armed with only a half-brick. See my poem "Killing God"
http://www.neopoet.com/node/killing-god

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They gathered and played together, with none of the things you all talk of.
They were innocent of all things we have made,
They just wanted to have fun and love each other at play.
Can we as grown up steal some of their innocence, and leave each others opinions behind, to walk here with the intent of writing poetry and helping each other with poetic forms.
It is not hard, if you do find it hard, then judge yourself first, as to what you should say for the progress of pure poetry, then endeavour to learn and teach the same.
I am of the opinion that we have thrashed this subject to death so shall we continue with our journey???
Is there a basic reason why intelligent people have to continue an argument, where the end product is ZERO, is this the true meaning of Pointless.
I love you all for the things you give me each day, let it stay that way.
You will not change my mind I am the only one that can do that and I am going to stand by what I say and that is nothing..
Yours hoping after this now a better now arrives, Yours Ian.T, Yenti and Sparrow and friends. SO THERE!!!!!

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There are a million reasons to believe in yourself,
So find more reasons to believe in others..

I wouldn't have started in the first place if I've not been offended.

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cheers,
Jess
Neopoet is a workshop. Poets take the time to read and think about your work and offer suggestions.
There is no obligation to make any changes however please acknowledge critique and comments.

will your Allah condemn to hell everyone who doesn't believe in him?

If so that is the act of a god worth fighting and rejecting, even if it's like standing alone before an army of tanks armed with only a half-brick. See my poem "Killing God"
http://www.neopoet.com/node/killing-god

cheers,
Jess
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There is no obligation to make any changes however please acknowledge critique and comments.

than live on your knees
(Midnight Oil)

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anything as long as you don't believe in God. I told it before there are basics, these are minors unless you have different beliefs, I won't answer one more question.

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"The Storm is Coming"
It is a threat.
I don't take kindly to threats.

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How bad it is to go forth with false beliefes and consider ourselves above gods.

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Must work hard to win the Heaven.I love Allah for all the blessings He showers everyone EVEN the non-believers .

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every religion wants to be the only one religion, which is a kind of proof they are all wrong.
Let's just be kind to each other, animals and the planet. That should satisfy any god worth existing.

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the divine books language jess.
Here we might stop?
Thank you.

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Stop please !!

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If you've not started to attack.
"The storm is coming" is the name of the Youtube and I have started all in a blog. You could have not participated if you don't want to proselytising your own thoughts, don't you?

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as much as you do with yours.

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There is no obligation to make any changes however please acknowledge critique and comments.

My road to success is always under construction

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cheers,
Jess
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There is no obligation to make any changes however please acknowledge critique and comments.

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cheers,
Jess
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There is no obligation to make any changes however please acknowledge critique and comments.

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