Tellem fuckem - revised

I do agree with the enternal message here Jess However I think you might have forced this one not my favorite of yours, maybe not edgy or controversial enough! I am becoming used to your writes causeing a stir, as they nip at the raw nerves of others. Good read though, Mark

"ask me no questions and I'll tell you no lies" shared sentiment Frost

intimidated? Frost

its hard not to kick someones ass when they keep running into my fist; they shouldn't have been standing there, but you share the same opinion as most my friends, I look like a grizzly but I'm more of a deranged teddy bear. LOL Frost

Geeeeeeeez, buddy! Guess y'all don't like authority out there. I can see reason to worry - even here. We're supposed to be innocent until proven guilty; we're not. We have "rights" which prevent self-incrimination; they fail. And the main reasons why myself, Frost, and others go armed is because the police can only help you AFTER a crime has been committed, they have no legal duty to protect you ( I can cite that information if you're interested.), and in cases where seconds count, the cops are minutes away! ~Jess K. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."

With a Title like this just had to look, May I quote...This is almost a rant....... Solutions.....hahahaha But seriously liked your thinking on this Jess, I'll stay away from the debate, If I start I won't stop. PPs...Wrong Place Wrong time they will fuck you every time!!!! Best Regards Jess Peter ~~~~~~~~~Creativity Is to think more efficiently~~~~~~~~~~

Maybe it's just me, but this strikes me as a rather immature whine, all-be-it legitimate in some cases, but juvenile in execution. It almost seems as though you've fallen to the level of the admen, rather than chosen not to listen. To make an analogy, Willie Nelson wrote some exceptional country music songs, Shania Twain wrote some nice, catchy ditties that sell bubble gum well. This, alas, sticks in the brain like a Shania Twain song rather than an a Nelson. It is a very strong opinion, but the actual poem--you rhymed arts with farts, like in grade school for Christ's sake--cheapens this, lowers it to irrelevance. Your ranting poems are usually filled with strong language, and palatable anger; they usually have teeth. This I find just gums it's way through its topic. "C'mon man," I found myself saying, "sharpen that wit, pull out that club--if you're wanting to fuck'em, then fuck'em, don't just fart in their general direction." Alobar (Just my two cents, spend them on gum if you wish.)

sorry to say that i find this poem very clever, thats about the best i can come up with, and the rhythmn is superb-GReat CLoUT it be 'avin, shall we say-

Smiles:) Barbara I think this is your worse ever written. Actually I form a headache trying to understand the full meaning. The poem whole language is offensive.

Smiles:) Barbara Ad-men I like how you describe their affect on people. The first three stanza said it well. I feel ad-men have no mercy. Great rewrite

this could be the end of a beautiful relationship, I was an Account exec in an ad agency in London for a couple of years at 17 (yes i was somewhat precocious!!!). I decided it wasn't worth dying for and your poem brought a wry smile...i always knew we were shit hot at making everyone want to buy things they didn't need so fuck us...em indeed. Love the poem

but i wont take ur words for it...i didnt meet many ad men, but surely once i met nice ad woman :D why do u say they are worse any one else? than any other fiction writer? didnt granny tell us lies and sell unhappiness to us when she told us fairy tales (well, i dont know if they do that at bed time down under)? isnt advertising an inseparable part of living? can u help but not advertise? (if u allow me to take the arguement to an extreme, arent u advertising ur genius through ur poetry?) happy birthday, ramanuj

i am going to steal some ones words now and say you most definately do not patrol the edges of things, and that is a good thing -Regards-good poetry and advertising are not the same thing, even an idiot like me knows one takes great skill ummmmm which one is that now? I think the person above knows this and is just trying for a reaction, now i come to think-Come to think of it that line does not make sense you advertise your genius through poetry, that means little to me, why it does sorry i can not explain .I'm confused enough as it is without being confused even more, i was happy with they are all worthless wankers,and a really good poem, why spoil this for me when i was beginning to grasp something solid? are you joking person above looking for a reaction IF you are please do not, my regards to you also.

All, I am as guilty as everyone; I've gotten lost & caught up in what went from friendly banter to a debate, now turning hostile; I would suggest we turn our eyes back to the poem and constructive suggestions, critize the poem not the poet. Wierdelf I had no problem understanding your explaination of "cop," like cop to something you did or cop a plea; accountability in other words. Frost

very interesting reaction indeed. easy to lie on ur ass and curse tha satan in hell than to notice the one inside u. i have been reading ur poems, and i must say they are quite interesting and i have developed certain admiration for u. so i had no intention to offend, and i wont say more. silence must b heard cheers

Clever little tantrum, for lack of a better word. Most ad-men would just smile and agree with you - as long as they got the sale. For many, this piece would simply validate what they do, insidious bastards that they can be. I do feel for those who are forced into the career by necessity, hating what they do but needing it for survival. In this manner, they have been consumed by the entity of the sale - they have become prey, just as we are to their "devious art." Am I really waxing philosophical about advertising? Someone stop me! Best, Ronda