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Categories/Tags for Poems

Need two things:
1) A sponsor to help organize which tags/categories we'd use initially
2) A list of tags

This would be a straightforward implementation.

(putting this on hold for now given community feedback...)

Status: 
Won't implement (other)

Comments

disagree strongly with this idea

Categorising poetry is like catching eels with mitts on. Even the current classifications are either ignored or dubious.

cheers,
Jess
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'Rhythm and Meter in Poetry'
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is infinite.

cheers,
Jess
A new workshop on the most important element of poetry-
'Rhythm and Meter in Poetry'
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/rhythm-and-meter-poetry

Absolutely NO, I have been putting my total works onto a site I have, and I have put the works into Categories there are now 36 of these creatures, this is OK for a personal site but there is no way this can be done on an international level, there would be more Categories than Poems, and no way of monitoring them as we do. Yours Ian.T

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There are a million reasons to believe in yourself,
So find more reasons to believe in others..

As I cannot find easily the Ideas submission page I would suggest that this is made easier for all..
The point of this comment is:- Can we have the Form of a poem submitted on stream visible to the reader it may help others in writing.

Say one was annotated "Sonnet" then the comments would be for that type, and a clearer sight, of what is required in each form to better the submission,
Yours Ian.T

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There are a million reasons to believe in yourself,
So find more reasons to believe in others..

"Last few words: " option. Remember a dropdown list of forms would be as long as your A-Z blogs!

Ideas submissions page is founds at
Help>Idea Gallery

cheers,
Jess
A new workshop on the most important element of poetry-
'Rhythm and Meter in Poetry'
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/rhythm-and-meter-poetry

The only way I see that this could work would be to let the author choose more than 1 label. So many poems contain multiple elements. Any given one might well be thought of as having aspects of nature,love and even personal thoughts. I am assuming you're not talking about whether a poem is a haiku,or free verse or such. Some tags that could be used : nature, love, personal thought, current events, social commentary, spiritual, dark, humor, narrative.........as you can see a lot of these could easily overlap.
Would the reason for tagging be to let people who wanted to read a certain type poetry to find a list of such? Might be handy for newcomers

that only one of those tags would be handy for certain newcomers. "Love Poetry". The one tag guaranteed to produce the worst crap. There are plenty of sites that pander to those deluded non-poets. By excluding, or at least not including, that category we improve Neopoet, for sure.

cheers,
Jess
A new workshop on the most important element of poetry-
'Rhythm and Meter in Poetry'
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/rhythm-and-meter-poetry

i dislike having to categorise my poetry...
the subtexts can get lost...
love judy
xxx

'Each for the joy of the working, and each, in his separate star,
shall draw the Thing as he sees It, for the God of Things as They are.'
(Rudyard Kipling)

This is good and not only good but the tags or keywords help to show up in SEO in Google. The better the tag or keywords and how your poem is tagged helps it to show up in relevance to other poems or stories of that nature. I think to simply your list into maybe 7 or 8 categories and then do your tag lists to fall under one of those categories and love poetry is definitely a high one on the search engines. You could say for tag words for this one category would be - lovers, weddings, relationships, couples, etc. Just for an example. Dark poetry could be like - depression, satire, etc..

Andrew I think your idea is good. If you publish a book either it will be broken up in chapters or in categories since you do not want to put a love poem right after a satire..you get my drift? So I think your idea warrants more feedback. I like the changes you presented here in this blog. I hope you all work it out somehow and just weighing in my penny here:)
Hello to Paul wherever you are!!

Mona

that writing for Hallmark is a worthy aspiration. It might be for you, but it has nothing to do with poets, poetry or Neopoet.

Such lowly works, I say, with the arrogance of someone who truly aspires to be better, are beneath consideration.

No we should not put such categories on Google, it would destroy everything Neopoet stands for. We are about challenging everything and improving, not dumbing down and compromising.

cheers,
Jess
A new workshop on the most important element of poetry-
'Rhythm and Meter in Poetry'
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/rhythm-and-meter-poetry

This comment is for Andrew and not directed at you. Poetry is tagged on many sites and I think it is a great idea and stated so. You do not have to agree as I was commenting to Andrews blog here. I did not say put categories on Google. If you know anything about search engine optimization (SEO) you might know what I am talking about. And no I do not write for Hallmark but it is a great idea eh?

My thought is that a writer could tag his/her poem with multiple tags if such apply. And Jess, not All love poetry is bad. I think I even recall you saying one I wrote was good lol...................stan

In wordpress or any other site you write, including poetry sites they use tag words and categorizations. If I was to look for something like lets say for example a toaster - a specific toaster I would go in and type fast toaster, large toaster, toaster for bagels or whatever it was I was searching for in Google. Or yahoo so the reason for tag words is to allow the search engines to pick it up and give you many an option. Now granted if you put the word love in Google you will have billions of articles or poems on love. If you were to put Love Hurts or Wedding Love you would get a different ton of poems or articles.

Just like when Bin Laden got killed for instance the Google search engine was flooded. You should of seen how many articles were written and poetry too on just this one name.

That is called trending topic - whatever is trending for the day, hour, month etc. Right now the Olympics is a trending topic so you will find many things on those tag words or key words what ever you want to call them.

To categorize the poetry here - what Andrew is asking does that mean under a certain TYPE of poetry. If you write love poems or sad poems, dark poems, haiku or the many other types of poems you would enter the poem under that category.? Is that what the initial idea is?

Then again it could cause a problem if someone said no it is not a love poem it is satire:) Who knows but let me know how it works. I think everyone should keep open minded about it because if I could remember correctly it was something many poets asked about a long time ago. Just check out some other poetry sites to see how many topics of poetry they may use for a reference. I do not think it would be 100 different categories in a drop down window. It just does not work that way to have that many. That would be useless in this regards, yes.

Just some thoughts. If I did not think it was a valid blog idea that Andrew made I would not have bothered to comment. But I did and there you have it:)

Thanks and you keep up the great works here Neopoets!

uh I mean crash... I think I get this..maybe not..hmm

Tags are categorical ways of promotion of this site
like the periodic table of thoughts
It is a good theoretical platform
Like going into the music store as a teen ager
when Vinyl was the big rage
looking for the scourge of the plains music
Like SHAM 69 for example
and discovering it under easy rock
NOT
or classical
Which today it may land

but then it may have been in PUNK

but perhaps the best magic of this place
is its whirpool of poems that roam about
from the great fall of the falls
seeing classical minded form next to some
far out incomprehensible peice of free form
it what makes this place what it is

like a marketplace of arrival
rather then the de rigour of exotica

I remember I love walking along the roadside
for the discareded junk
there were treasures in all of it
Or walking the beach by the ocean
East coast one can find amber
and on the west coast japanese
fishing bouys

thing Is I can see both ideas as being sound
but I myself personally prefer it without the
tags...

followed by a German Army jacket (modern of course)
(never flown a flag or colours before but at this age the most stable country left in Euro
helping everyone out seems natural to fly finally)

they had T shirts I saw once with a typewriter on them
black with white logos and a Salman Rushdie quote

probably the last T shirt I wanted badly

but all this is not too be

family comes first
clothes for back to school and glasses next for my Bunni
eventually new crank gears for my vehicle a mountian bike

poetry is not making money at all these days
in Canada lit and publishing houses whats left of them
.. Sexton would have a hard time of it now

and yet its impossible to think of this place making ends meet
without a form of revenue Without advertisement prompts
I have zero credit...no paypal.....Premium membership here
would be freakin' awesome...

but its beyond me
I will never publish
these poems are free
thats my rebellion

Not a good thing to say though it is true, your point about the German flag flying over Europe..As they now rule Europe
After Our/Yours and many countries had given their best to halt Germany on two Occasions, something to do with world wars and Our young giving their lives .. You want to fly the German flag???
After the war we rebuilt the poor Germans economy, the factories and many other things we inadvertently destroyed to stop them.
We spent many years after that in debt, for all the things we had to buy to stop them. Our Debt lasted (To the USA) into the 21st century...
Germany came off of food rationing and cloths rationing in 1948, it took another 4 years for the people of the UK to have the same privileges
Now you have made me very cross I could spit Snakes.
I will give you a few flags that you could fly, the first is a flag with a Maple leaf on for the place you live. ( Maybe make one for your own Nation)
The others in no particular order are the flags of the commonwealth whose youth gave their lives so that you could live under what ever rule you have, other than nazi-ism or the Japanese Imperial forces which ever way they wanted to carve the world up, you would be enjoying now..
I thought you were a thinking man that could work out which flag would be better to fly.. To me they should burn them all and just have the one with a family emblazoned on it overlaying a globe, not that defunct Blue thing that is flown. while they watch everyday people being massacred..
Sorry but just maybe you touched a nerve, Yours Ian.T

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There are a million reasons to believe in yourself,
So find more reasons to believe in others..

Nerves

I hear what you are saying Ian
explains much

We do have flags of sorts we Natives fly
and we are symbolically given a freedom

I wonder if we were given this conversation
to have if I had been born in Germany

or is this just a moment where we CAN
have this conversation
Is not Neopoet for all Ian
or can we use poetry as political Platform

perhaps this is why Poets shall be persecuted
and wateched by many goverment bodies

must get going to my part time work
and no I am not making bombs
not for political might or to stop dictatorship

but somewhere countries fall
or rise from a kind of indulgence
a choice to promote something
right or wrong

Thanks for your reply, we will muddle on and piss against the wind.
Excuse the expression but it fits as this is what we do most times as poets lol.
We as you say can talk about everything not often I refer to nerves, probably because I was a war baby lol
As you say If I was that serious I would be making Bombs lol.
Take care my friend I wish I was in Canada, though the reasons aren't Political , Yours Ian.T

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There are a million reasons to believe in yourself,
So find more reasons to believe in others..

in the fifties they thought the Beatniks were going to bring down the youth
Sputnik Beatnik I get the connection

All in our family circle there were those who went overseas in world war two
and fought In the first world war too and my dads wifes dad was in Korea
after World war two as the flying Finn in his little sherman tank

was is messed

Americans needed to be at the edge of the line
Checkpoint Charlie
etc

I still like the idea of Tags though here
Tags for me are like nicknames

people just hate labels

I wonder if the Beatniks hated that title too?
ha ha

well we shall just keep on writing
as did they

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