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An Ottava Rima on Self

In Sacramento was I born too soon.
Those days a premature was bound to die,
yet somehow I was grant a doubtful boon
and left alone to live not knowing why.
But two pounds in the manger early June,
sans nails and ears stuck out as if to fly.
For thirteen years my parents had been wed,
at last to birth a creature best off dead.

My sister came about that time next year.
A child of Elven loveliness ideal.
While seizures mine lade all the house with fear,
the daughter cooed in peace and grace surreal.
She seldom cried and was a blissful cheer.
I burned with sickness doctors could not heal.
Great fevers hotter than a summer’s day
would leave me damaged to my dam’s dismay.

When five we trekked to southern lands to bide
and I began to weep for any cause.
Depression in a child needs naught to hide,
but none did guess aloud of harboured flaws.
A cry baby it did not pay to chide,
relentlessly upon his finger gnaws.
And baby sister grew apace in grace,
a brilliant child of vigor, fair of face.

At nine my parents grew apart and failed.
We saw our sire less and less for that
until when I was twelve he last exhaled.
His fifth attack of heart too much, whereat
the prodigal his wife held as he quailed
wept violently a weak, self centered brat.
His daughter sat in silence as a stone
and never spoke a word of ruthful tone.

I turned fourteen and met George Huntington.
Agone old George had named the rank disease
from which my mommy shook before her son.
It tore her mind away with callous ease.
My sister feared it so she could but shun
the menace of the kind Eumenides.
The withered, mangled, witless human shell
would die inmost a veiled and lonely Hell.

I left our home that ugly, anguished year
that mommy lost the use of both her legs.
The stage was all I felt I need be near
and so I lowered “self” into the dregs.
Surrounded by the vying, drunken queer
I earned my Union Card and emptied kegs.
A paltry time it took and all my nerve
broke down to leave me little to preserve.

Asylum and a sterling plunge complete;
exotic drugs and crapulence of mind.
A year was lost before I gained my feet.
Serenity I never thought to find.
The passion slough a turbid kind of heat
that peeled from me as hyper, cheerless rind.
‘Twas then they gave the diagnostic word,
but I refused to heed. Madmen demurred.

Surrendering to drink I deviled thought
and found at last where all my talents lay.
In role games I allowed my muse be caught
and scarcely held the manic Jinn at bay.
Three years of this I lived and questioned not.
I lived for D&D and wallowed fey.
Reclusive, drunk and craven to a fault,
I knew I best remain locked in my vault.

But storytelling does not live a life
and I still entertained I might have mine.
I hie where unbeknownst to me my wife
would shortly come despite my state indign.
Though burdened by my self inflicted strife,
I strove to teach poor dancers to refine
until a student singular I met.
The least of me with breath still owes her debt.

Today my world is paradise and blessed.
Unquestioned I yet struggle with my soul.
Depression never gives a man a rest,
but with the drugs there’s much about me whole.
Too true sometimes I feel I’m but a guest
in my own life and play once more a role.
But now I draw from out a termless source
of gifted peers…and I shall write of course.

Style / type: 
Structured: Western
Review Request (Intensity): 
I want the raw truth, feel free to knock me on my back
Review Request (Direction): 
What did you think of my title?
How was my language use?
What did you think of the rhythm or pattern or pacing?
How does this theme appeal to you?
How was the beginning/ending of the poem?
Is the internal logic consistent?
Last few words: 
This is an edited version of an older poem. I would appreciate any help offered. The form is one of my personal favorites.
Editing stage: 

Comments

there's so much blood sweat and tears in this I just can't find what to say.
To be that raw and honest, and pour it in a poetic form...takes guts.
Most often we hide within our poetry, to some extent.
Ain't no place to hide in here.

Eumolpus
I'd rather learn from one bird how to sing
than teach ten thousand stars how not to dance
ee cummings

I know I'm not supposed to, but...
fuck.

FUCK.

Glorious. Beautiful. Powerful.
I want another stanza about the woman who transformed your life, brother. Who is she, what is she, how did she.

God damn, I wish I could write like this.
Bookmarked.
Nominated.
Geez Wes, I don't even know what I'm nominating it FOR.
I don't care.
with the most sincerity I can offer,

Respectfully, Race

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This is inspiring to read.
Raw truth.
And to be able to be so honest about your life.
How long did it take to write, I guess as life, the poem keeps growing.
What is the form?
Amazing.
And thank you!

I didn't expect anyone to like this.
Thank you all.

I edited it a bit from its original form and was looking for complaints. Not these sort of reactions.
It took me about a month to write the thing some time ago and a week to edit. The form is an Ottava Rima. A relatively common format of poetry. I have always challenged myself by writing in strict forms and this is simply one of them.
The "woman" is my wife. She who saved me from myself. Yes, this is my life's story of a sort. I was as honest as I am able to be. I will post a poem about her as soon as the site allows me to. Without her I would be dead I am sure. I would very much like you to read it. It sort of goes with this poem.

Thank you so much for the positive critiques. It inspires me.

W. H. Snow

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I am not happy with it and would love to hear some complaints.

W. H. Snow

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You know me, Wes...I would pare down the words, and to hell with the structure and the meter...but then it would not still be what you have created.
It does not NEED changes.

Respectfully, Race

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However, too many alterations in the meter and rhyme structure would destroy the form of "Ottava Rima". I cannot do that. It was too hard to write in that format and I won't abandon it.
But there are places where I am not happy with the word choices and seek help in that respect.
Any suggestions are welcome as hell.

W. H. Snow

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I took the liberty of playing around with the first verse. If you are happy for me to continue, please indicate if there is a particular direction I should keep in mind. Oh, and I have taken your advice about the mother poem.Thank you.

In Sacramento I was born too soon.
A premature those days was bound to die,
yet life had granted me a doubtful boon,
left me alone to live not knowing why.
But two pounds in the manger early June,
sans nails and ears stuck out as if to fly.
For thirteen years my parents had been wed,
at last to birth a creature better dead

Keith Logan
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OK, you asked for !
Only first half of stanza 1:

In Sacramento was I born too soon.
Those days a premature was bound to die,
yet somehow I was grant a doubtful boon
and left alone to live not knowing why.

My edit:

In Sacramento I was born too soon,
in days when Prematures were bound to die
yet somehow I was granted doubtful boon,
and left alone to live, not knowing why.

Meter is the same, (I think). Original Rhyme is left as is. new internal rhyme makes the lines flow together better, I think.
"Prematures" is not strictly a proper noun, but it works for meter, and for meaning.
You know I don't like re-writing other's poems.
Especially yours.
But, you insisted!
I am always a bit nervous, when I'm about to hit the save key on edits!
You know, after doing this, looking back, its the flow of the poem that seems to be the perceived problem.
Interesting.

Respectfully, Race

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Such a long poem to maintain a clean rhythm. Thank you both for your input. It's what I was looking for. You may not see it here (editing here is such a pain), but much of what you put forth will be incorporated in the master poem.
Never fear the save button on edits. Yours are usually strong ones.
Thanks Keith.

W. H. Snow

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I copy, but it won't allow me to paste. I have tried simply rewriting them, but that doesn't work either. It is frustrating because I like both of your changes.
Any suggestions?

W. H. Snow

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I simply deleted the problem verse and loaded anew. That doesn't help you though because you have so many comments that would be lost. You might get away with copying the thread (you would have to edit out all the header references, but that should not be a problem) and placing it as the first entry in a new thread.

Keith Logan
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I thank you both.
The flow of the poem is difficult, but I tried hard to stay true to the strict format of an Ottava Rima.

W. H. Snow

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Post the poem with a new name, make changes there.
Contact Tech support too, there may be a bug that they need to know about.

Respectfully, Race

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Keith and Jim have made some constructive criticism, as I sit down to make my own.
I am not familiar with the form, so having looked it up, I now have a slightly better understanding. Iambic pentameter with eight verses per stanza of ab,ab,ab,cc.
I'm not sure why you used this particular form though, other than as an exercise in disciplined writing, as traditionally it appears to have been used for heroic epics.
I think you are too constricted by this genre and consequently at times, too contrived. You become driven by the style, rather than let it work for you. You have also adopted a very antiquated turn of phrase which to my ears, adds to the at times, forced nature.
For example here:
' My sister came about that time next year.
A child of Elven loveliness ideal.
While seizures mine lade all the house with fear,
the daughter cooed in peace and grace surreal.'

First verse, modern English, uncontrived, easily understood.
Second, has links to other worldliness, but is ideal the right word here? - 'A child of Elven beauty quite surreal' also flows.
Third verse seems clumsy and in contrast with the language of the first.
Final verse, as I pinched surreal earlier, perhaps your sister could coo in peace and grace genteel or even ideal here. The idea being her beauty was surreal, whilst her disposition ideally delightful.
My take:
'My sister came about that time next year
A child of Elven beauty and of grace
Whilst I with fits, threw all the house in fear
Her coos and smiles marked only my disgrace. Or
Her coos and smiles lit up my darkened face.
As, you may not like the grace/disgrace rhyme.

I have tried to make it a bit more approachable. You may not agree.
Here are two more lines I would tweek
'Today my world is paradise and blessed.
Unquestioned I yet struggle with my soul.
to
Today my world is paradise and blessed (no full stop)
Secure and yet I struggle with my soul.' reads a bit better to me, also it isn't unquestioned, you are questioning why you still struggle
There are lines in the poem I find quite wonderful - many in fact:
Depression never gives a man a rest, - so, true and will resonate with many. Don't think you need the comma though, it's followed by 'but' which technically makes the comma redundant.
Love this -
'The withered, mangled, witless human shell
would die inmost a veiled and lonely Hell' - wondered if that applied in contrast to your sisters physical charms.
This is also a great couplet
'‘Twas then they gave the diagnostic word,
but I refused to heed. Madmen demurred.'

I could go on, there are many strong features, but when all said and done I ask myself why?
Why write in this form, it constricts you and makes you write in an artificial way.
I know sometimes it's useful to adhere to a certain style for either discipline purposes or just experimentation - because you can. Also for educational reasons, it's important to know and understand different forms to grow as a poet but it is not the law, you can reinterpret and put your own stamp on.
What I would do now, is take this bio poem, keep many of the phrases, but rework into a more relaxed less contrived format and see what transpires.
Then that's me - and I'm not you.
I do admire the work and tenacity that has gone into this, don't think I am being negative. You asked what I thought and there you have it. Most people wouldn't even try to do this, assuming they had heard of an ottava rima - me included. it's impressive Wesley, very impressive.
Jx

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Praise is nice because I don't want to think I wasted all my efforts, but I don't grow without critique.
Thanks Jane.
I wrote in this form as I write in others. To restrict myself forces me to work at structuring sentences.
Also, I love the old forms. I have written mostly in iambic pentameter and that gets old.
But I have challenged myself with the Triolet, the Kyrielle, the Ballade (a bitch) and many, many others.
As for epic forms... my epic poem is written in iambic tetrameter. A very simple format, but in this case I thought my life's story was as epic as I could get for me personally, so the choice of an Ottava Rima.
I often write in an archaic form because I think that way. I talk that way. People think I'm from England (I'm actually descended from English aristocracy, but who cares). I really do talk like this. I don't exactly know where it came from, but that's me.
The poem is stiff at times because the form is hard to maintain, but that's where the exercise comes in. To limit oneself makes you think harder.
I will use many of your suggestions, but I don't rewrite poems. I have tried and it just makes a mess. I would rather start over with something new.
A workshop on the Italian sonnet is the same sort of restriction that forces one to think in a particular direction. You know I want to do it, but you have to get better first.
Try a double Ballade. It will smoke your mind and clean out every organ in your body. It burnt through my anti depressants in a heart beat.

W. H. Snow

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Will try and bend my will in that direction.
Jxx

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you asked for critique of a poem that speaks of a perilous childhood and latter life that eventually took on the semblance of a happy one. Well, I'm not qualified to offer you my service as an editor. Those prior to my post have offered some suggestions, but again, I'm not qualified to judge those either. I like the format that seems perfect for telling your story in verse. If the poem feels stiff here and there, I guess that's the nature of the beast. I for one do not wish to put words into the mouth or pen of a writer who knows his business--as you, obviously, do. To use the well-worn cliche, " your first verse took me right in."
I was born 17 years short of a century (do the math) and had just about every childhood disease doctors can think of, but I survived. You are right, a 2 lb premature baby stood little chance at the time of your birth. Etc, Etc.
Your last verse speaks of a happy turn of events, and the fact that you still write suggests that everything has settled down in your life. Forgive me for failing to come up with suggestions such as how you should have written this unembellished story of your life. Great write! (Forgive my incoherent ramblings (just had my head examined due to an injury, lol).
Ali

Getting old is a bitch, is it not?

W. H. Snow

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I can't put two lines about my childhood, neither happy memories nor bad ones ( if ever found).

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