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Ironies

A gross irony perpetuates
in the surrounding mists
that intrude like rays of night
on a season of blighted hope,
and sundering sense from morality

-Vain goes the fists against the foe
who is not without, nor far in distant hell.
worn is might and wind is turned to woe-

I suck at what I hope to bring to being,
and being is a curse from birth to death.
And even then, ridden with grave lack
that pitches intellect against a divine right;
like a candle sets the mists of night alight

-Vain flies the prayer in heaven's eyes
to fall like birds be-struck by an angry sky-

Look how water fails to bore a hole;
to vanquish the hard and stubborn stone.
Will they also bear our souls and praise,
and then steal dominion from an incompetent race?
Divinely divined, divinely dealt to death
in a sad reminiscing of a broken dream

-Vain tolls the bell that chimes awake the dead.
An awful grin Misfortune makes and jeers:
"You have nowhere to hide; for the dead exist but here"-

At last, an end of days begins.
Predictable decline. Disconcerting fears
revealed like a prophecy in the end:
What fate again befalls the twice slain?
A second death? A passing into fire?
Oblivion, then, madness long shall reign!
No discourse can this mystery define,
nor bounds by our feeble arts confine.

It all is a complex irony.
A just and fitting end it must be.

-Vain, the breath that struggled on that day,
Reminisce, when all could have ended that way-

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Just simply wow....

Tommi

Tommi Cordial

Dawn breaks over marble head...

Thanks. I thought this poem was rather awkward, so I'v been hiding it for a while now. Glad you liked it, though I'd like to ask, how did it speak to you?

Thanks.

No verse is free for the man who wants to do a good job. - TS Eliot

http://www.wsgeorge.com/

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Yay! The short stanzas worked then. I find that 'punctuating' a long poem with short, pointed stanzas really adds and interesting effect to the poem. I'm now discovering this, so it may pop up ina few more poems. Will take note and revise on the points you've given me.

And do drop a link to your workshop so I can check it out.

Thanks

No verse is free for the man who wants to do a good job. - TS Eliot

http://www.wsgeorge.com/

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hell and brimstone have nothing on this write. The ironic blight we shareis so vividly discribed here that it is almost frighting. The power of this write lies in its truth, that can be tested by our own belief. The texture of this to me is in the belief that there is more then what we see as witnesses with our own minds eye.
This just blow me away. because I do not belief in God or religous organization. yet while it did not speak of it the conotations are very present. This is so well crafted, each word and line with its repeation of the main thought carries each stanza to its powerful and clear conclussion.
BRAVO!!

Eddie

LIFE ISN'T ABOUT WAITING FOR THE STORM TO PASS
IT'S ABOUT LEARNING HOW TO DANCE IN THE RAIN.
VIVIAN GREENE

This, from you, is a big deal! I'm happy you got something from this poem. The first response was quite sad, when I shared it online, elsewhere.

I wrote this when I was in one of those 'moods', and I rarely make much sense to myself. In all, I was brooding over how fruitless (and ironic) some of our well-intentioned actions and beliefs can be. It's got a lot of sadness, and yes, to an extent, raw truth. :)

Thanks for enjoying this piece.

No verse is free for the man who wants to do a good job. - TS Eliot

http://www.wsgeorge.com/

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Very impressive, I have to say I did read Beau's comment & completely agree with all she puts up to consider & praises. She usually phrases these things very eloquantly so I have little else to say except to encourage & follow your progress as a writer.

My fave lines (among a number of them):

I suck at what I hope to bring to being,
And being is a curse from birth to death.
And even then, ridden with grave lack
That pitches intellect against a divine right;
Like a candle sets the mists of night alight

-Vain flies the prayer in heaven's eyes
To fall like birds be-struck by an angry sky-

Look how water fails to bore a hole;
To vanquish the hard and stubborn stone.
Will they too bear our souls and praise,
And then steal dominion from an incompetent race?
Divinely divined, divinely dealt to death
In a sad reminiscing of a broken dream

On second read, it was actually hard to pull favourite lines out, since as a whole, the poem is made up of very good lines... that's the mark of a really good poem I think, when I find I can't pick favourites over another easilly, it must be all good!

Cheers
Cloud

Cheers
Anni

My dear friend always told me "Water the seeds of joy first"

Thank you, Thank you Cloud.

From the response so far, I might want to stick to this way of writing, that is, letting the words flow out of me with my mood, instead of mixing and matching to construct something. Do you think that's a good idea?

Fact that you think this poem is good is really encouraging, especially at a time when I'm really struggling to find my place as a writer. I'm currently on a break from my writing, and I'll do well to learn from the best on this site.

Thanks

No verse is free for the man who wants to do a good job. - TS Eliot

http://www.wsgeorge.com/

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Hi again, I don't know that anyone can really answer that query but you, I think if you asked all writers how they go about writing each would differ. Personally I would encourage whatever you did here & whatever works for you. Certainly that's what I do ("letting the words flow out of me with my mood, instead of mixing and matching to construct something") & even if I do "construct something", there is always a large element of the former involved anyway... Most of my writing is really stream of consciousness, sometimes with a topic or theme, or an idea of outcome eg writing a song to be sung by the singing group I run, or for me, or writing a rhyming poem or expressing a sentiment specific to current events etc.... or not. Often I just write & am almost like a witness to what turns up, whilst consciously shaping also. Neo is teaching me to be more vigilant & edit where I never used, but then, back then no one ever saw any of my poems, only the songs got any public attention.

Most of all, if advice is useful for you, mine would be to just write & keep writing & don't be afraid to try different approaches, but in the end, do the thing that makes your heart sing... you know what I mean. All we do here is share opinions mostly, but I find, any input usually helps us think over our own processes & must be useful.
Enjoy
Cheers
Anni

Cheers
Anni

My dear friend always told me "Water the seeds of joy first"

Your take on this makes the way much clearer for me. Will be checking out your works soon...

No verse is free for the man who wants to do a good job. - TS Eliot

http://www.wsgeorge.com/

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Might I just add here, I have just read other comments & your responses, I'm wondering if you want feedback also on the content, or effect of your write here? Sounds like you did. For what it's worth, I try to avoid writing the darker stuff in a public arena, somehow I believe we are what we express, & it is stronger if that is public (I will say that is purely MY perspective, worth some thought I think, but not meant to be forced on you), in that light I got a bit edgy at some of the ways you expressed your circumstances in this write, purely because it doesn't give you options, which are critical for us, humans I mean, we need option to pull out of darker places or we are very distressed... but the main thing here is that regardless of the content I had to keep reading, that is the mark of a good write... & content is purely a personal things... Your first response above just asks how the write landed on the reader, my response to that is that it will always be personal, but for me, I had to tighten up my sensitivities & switch to exploring the form & flow of the poem because the content had elements of hopelessness & finality that I find too "ouchy" to absorb... as I said though, despite that, I respected the poem for the use of language & imagery etc. The story IS sad & is only one way to look at things, that's all, I guess I avoid posting stuff with this much dark passion because it can dig up depression in a reader if it is well written, probably depression has to be there to dig up though, so just post whatever you feel comfortable posting, just letting you know how it landed for me.

Cheers
Cloud

Cheers
Anni

My dear friend always told me "Water the seeds of joy first"

While you emphasize the fact that it is YOUR perspective, I really do agree with all you've said. My next poem to be posted was going to be another darkish write.

I find that these normaly come to me quite naturally, without any much effort, but I'm going to break the chain with something much lighter and less depressing.

Note: I wrote this poem while I was depressed.

No verse is free for the man who wants to do a good job. - TS Eliot

http://www.wsgeorge.com/

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I agree with you, this is where your voice lies. We all who write look for our voice, I believe this is your voice resonating clearly.

Eddie
...

LIFE ISN'T ABOUT WAITING FOR THE STORM TO PASS
IT'S ABOUT LEARNING HOW TO DANCE IN THE RAIN.
VIVIAN GREENE

For me, the difficulty was applying what I learned while still retaining that voice. For a while now, I think I'v lost it.

Then again, is there a chance that all our poetry will begin to sound the same, and get quite boring/predictable? That's something I'm afraid of doing.

No verse is free for the man who wants to do a good job. - TS Eliot

http://www.wsgeorge.com/

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yes that will happen but if we are aware, as you have stated: "is there a chance that all our poetry will begin to sound the same" then we can search for the other voice we hear, because as I do, I am sure you hear many.
"Isn't choice grand"

Eddie
...

LIFE ISN'T ABOUT WAITING FOR THE STORM TO PASS
IT'S ABOUT LEARNING HOW TO DANCE IN THE RAIN.
VIVIAN GREENE

great poem
spoken well in thought and aloud
I like your elaborations in depth and thought
and your comments
You do have a voice
and I have heard it!!

Thank You!

Thank you Esker,
for thinking good
about this poem.

And I'll thank Eddie
for helping me see things that way.

It's so much simpler.

No verse is free for the man who wants to do a good job. - TS Eliot

http://www.wsgeorge.com/

author comment

you"re welcome, but remember this thought came from you. I am just standing on the outside looking in through the window of your mind which you have left open for a moment for all to see. So it's about you and your perspective.

Thanks,
Eddie

LIFE ISN'T ABOUT WAITING FOR THE STORM TO PASS
IT'S ABOUT LEARNING HOW TO DANCE IN THE RAIN.
VIVIAN GREENE

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