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Anger shows
in not eating meat, or as if
*only* produce from the garden
makes a difference in the remorseful turning
of the world.

Have you ever met a vegan
sort of type person
that thinks that Man is so cruel
that all animals are in need of support
against Man [or Woman]

and that their stand against cruelty
as applies to bacon, or lamb, or veal
or beef, or eggs, or chicken and rabbits
even wild ones such as deer, or bison, or walleye
need their vile anger directed there.

If the choice is made
for not eating meat
is in some small way changing things
in the world, i tend to agree
this doesn’t go nearly to the necissary horizon, however,

that of changing Man’s -or Woman’s- basic cruelty
everywhere on our blue planet, in the pervasive
where ubiquitously the tenor of that anger
stops our inhumanity
like from tanks and anti aircraft missiles.

How to reconcile the orange cruelty
of nature, like tigers
killing the impalas, or bears
catching and eating the salmon, or sharks
following the smelling of blood red

nature in it’s colorful, dazzling beauty is cruel
we are a part of nature, this is of God’s creation
and we humans all have the immeasure of ability
to be so cold
to be frozen in callousness, a black flag of brutish.

The grey distance to cover that
remains off, away, almost too distant
to see. Perhaps some do -their ethics so creamy pervasive
in their guise of righteousness so they express close mercilessness
to the rest of us.

Lemmings falling off the cliff wonder at suddenly flying.

The covering icemelt belies the rapid current below.

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about these Vegans and their eating habits, after all, didn't Jesus feed the masses with fish?
What about the studies that say vegetables register waves on a polygraph machine when they are pulled from their bed of soil? It is said they register as a scream! I think that we are supposed to be able eat anything that doesn't eat us first!
After all, we are the masters of all the beasts of Earth. Your logic seems sound and I'm not one to make much ado about making dinner. ~ Geez.

It seems that the days and hours that people
are available for chatroom are staggered and
not a good match for most everyone. How about
if everyone just shows up at the door, whenever
they have a few free minutes?

Steve and I know a couple who are vegan, I went to school with them at Northwestern Electronics Institute in Mpls. we stayed friends for a time after that. they weren't vegan through school but became after the fact. we are not vegan nor have any desire to be so. we used to get together about once every three months for a meal out. it became increasingly harder to do finding a restaurant to fit all our needs. we finally quit seeing each other. I guess our carnivorous ways disturbed them.

*hugs, Cat

Steve usually had fish of some kind
me, a sandwich
it is not as if we ordered a whole cow!

When someone reads your work
And responds, please be courteous
And reply in kind, thanks.

I always appreciate folks that take the time to read and comment.

Since I got out of hospital, I have had little desire to eat meat of any sort. My doing so is a decision I made **for me.** it is not a decision I made to impose on anyone else.

I suppose that the fight that Vegans take on (pretty much anyone else that doesen’t see things their way) is one I will never engage with. Avoiding fanatics is a good policy.

Many Vegans are also PETA members as well. Fanatics x 2 then….

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I didn't think that you would try to change the mind of anyone. As for me, I've eaten many different types of meat, [wild game and all.] I do feel that PETA raises some valid points about the way that many animals are treated. I'm not a fanatic about it, but I do have concerns about animals used in experiments that cause pain and suffering. ~ Geez.

It seems that the days and hours that people
are available for chatroom are staggered and
not a good match for most everyone. How about
if everyone just shows up at the door, whenever
they have a few free minutes?

So much of PETA objections are based in a valid approach, agreed... however there is IMO some very "out there" points of view from that group.

Thanks for your point of view!

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