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Responding to Poetry like Students

Engaging Ideas: The Professor's Guide to Integrating Writing, Critical Thinking, and Active Learning in the Classroom by John C. Bean is a reading I had to reflect on for professional developement at my job at the University Writing Center at ECU. We read the chapter "Responding to Student Writing" and I think a lot of the advice can apply to Neopoet, if we change the nouns from "teachers" and "students" to "writers" and "readers".

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The most valuable advice from the reading comes from page 320. This section emphasizes the value of mitigating “negative” comments with genuine praise. This helps make the response to writing the most constructive because writers aren’t put off by solely critical feedback. They know what they did well and what could use some more work. 

The next most valuable advice comes from page 321-322 in which the authors suggest that we should use feedback to “coach revision”. By using feedback to prompt revision, readers can give writers the chance to improve even after they feel like they’re done with the poem. For the poet, it helps them learn that “writing is never done, only due or let go” but that they’ve almost always got another chance, which is very encouraging. 

From a writing consultant’s standpoint, this advice is valuable as well because we are usually responding to drafts and are on a strict deadline. If we feel like we’ve got to mark every “error” and give feedback on every single thing we’d suggest to do differently in a paper, we’ll just end up bombarding most students, who are likely already stressed, with overwhelming feedback that may make them not even want to try to wade through all the suggestions.

In an online poetry workshop, poetry isn’t necessarily due, and to complicate matters, the poets may be more inclined to consider a poem done because there’s no consequence like for a student whose work is due; however, this advice still stands because it allows the reader to open up new possibilities for the poet that the poet may not have considered. From the poet’s standpoint, knowing that commenters may be working off this model allows them to avoid saying “This poem is done, you don’t have to give suggestions/I’m not listening/etc.” At the end of the day, the poem still belongs to the poet and they have the agency to decide what get’s done to the poem, if anything, but potential squabbling can be avoided if both parties are willing to engage with these types of comments.

We should all want to “stimulate meaningful revision” (322), not just point out every “error”. We should hope for meaningful comments from each other and give them as well. We should all strive to always be learning and to treat our craft like students.

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There are a limited number of people who consider suggestions for revisions to be a personal insult. They should find another site lol..............stan

It's good to read from you again! I've been away for far too long, but I hope I can help where I can.

If the number of people who do feel that way is pretty limited, then it feels like every single one of them has come onto our site at one time or another in the years I've been here!

Hope you're well,
Kelsey

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You are a natural Teacher !!!

Good to see you here, it seems as though you have been away a very long time.
I do hope that the world has been good to you, if not please write about it, not only will it release the tension but it will give us some more knowledge on how to deal with things.
Great report on our subjects, as you know we are a earning place, you should teach more but we need someone to start at the basics.
Neopoet has much to do and much teaching is needed to make it one of the best interactive poetry sites in the world.
Take care I will look out for your poetry,
Yours as always Ian..

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Yours as always, Ian.T, Sparrow, and Yenti

I am certainly going to try to get active again! I hope to show more of what I have been up to as well. A lot of my academic work could be useful or interesting, I think!

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What kind of basics do you mean? What do you think is needed? If I have an idea of where to start, I can put some attention toward that.

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