I have no isms, no creeds to follow, I am of the human race that exists on this planet, all of the same roots, in fact the same as the flowers. We humans make up ideas and philosophies and follow our own decrees as if they were given, proved, real, or somehow basic, but they are only in the imagination of the man who thought them up.

True this has caused the growth of understanding in a twisted, biased manner perhaps, but also a great deal of art and culture has arisen from man's mind. We tend to look upon this culture as something wonderful and give its name powers that it didn't have originally; using it to 'lord it' some over other less cultivated souls.

And all the while, the birds and beasts go about their business of living, they have no creeds, they are the same origin as we are. What are we all creating?

In the depths of the forest
the woodpecker
and the sound of the axe.............Buson.

Ann.

Wellllllllllllllllllllllll.

I'm assuming you're a tea-party member and your goddess is Sarah Palin.

How far off the mark am I Scribbler. It just amazes me how not growing beyond one's religious, political, state or country's borders, etc. makes for perfect *revisionist* history.

I will humbly beg your forgiveness if wrong, Stan. Really.

BTW, did you ever see *The Patriot*? Americans learned to *terrorize* the British, when they least expected it. Also *Inglorious Basterds*. These movies can be seen by any IQ (for the price of a DVD rental, through the library or Netflix, etc.) , and can be extrapolated from to circumvent *terrorist* as being specific to the notion of time and place as well as people.

~A

I add a postscript.

War is hell.

~A

I suspect this will get lost in all the ranting, but I wanted to tell you that I really liked the poem. I actually tend to like everything you write. This had a very powerful "voice". I could hear the speaker. A well written thing indeed. Hope you can find it again under all the hormone drenched screeching.
wesley

I love this, you have captured the essence of these savages.
If you get the chance, read the words of Eric Rudolph; his evil is the same, only the religion different.
I'm struck by those who read much more into this poem of yours than there actually is: I guess good poetry does that, doesn't it?

Excellent poem, chilling, true and gleefully evil.

Hi Jim, it has been said that one man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter. It all depends on which side we're on, doesn't it?

That goes for every war that has ever been fought, lost or won. Every side has *collateral damage* that includes innocents.

So imo, neither Kal nor I misread this poem.

~A

did I state that anyone had "misread" Stan's poem. My statement was that people read more into it than is there. That is completely different.
"One man's terrorist is another's freedon fighter."
Wrong.
Freedom fighters do not intentionally target innocent civilians. Terrorists are murderers, who use political and cultural beliefs as excuses to rape, destroy and murder in an attempt to frighten society to the point where the people in it rise up against themselves and destroy their own in an attempt to stop the terror.
Freedom fighters are those who fight against occupiers and conquerors. Not too much difference, I agree, but that difference is important.
The teenager who attacks and kills american soldiers who have occupied his country on the orders of the US president is a freedom fighter.
The shite who butchers women and children in the name of his religion is a terrorist.

The fact is that the piece of garbage Stan wrote of would quite happily butcher your loved ones in front of your eyes before murdering you as well, and characterizing such filth as "freedom fighters" only serves to allow more slaughter in the name of whatever creed they happen to believe that day.

Jim, I am pointing out that we all read into poems whatever we do. Or not. It's the way we *interpret* poetry as well as war and peace. Is peace the absence of war? When the husband stopped beating his wife? It's quite subtle sometimes.

Is peace what results when war is fought and won? My point is this: there will always be unrest
as long as justice is denied. And I allege that there are brutal soldiers of fortune who enter the military for that purpose as well as good people who turn into monsters from the effects of war,
and some probably are *sick* in mind or soul before during or after.c

The terrorists that Stan writes about are often very young people whose families have been *collateral damage*, orphaned and alone, the hate already in evidence, and great *targets* for those whose purpose is to recruit *martyrs*.. it doesn't take much to turn them into
*terrorists* for the cause and then die. The 72 virgins are a bonus.

I do not condone their activities. I am propeace, which is a bit different in nature from anti-war.
However, I do what I can to call attention to the thinking patterns that cause wars, even poetic wars of words.

~A

By your definition, the state of Israel is a terrorist. Not a few handfuls of recruits.. Then the United States of America is a terrorist for *ALLOWING* 9/11.

Talk to an architect, tell me if there is an implosion or an explosion. http://www.ae911truth.org/

I digress and so apologize.

But I'm getting tired of folks thinking the best of our country when at least we should be open-minded enough to weigh the evidence....pro and con.

Besides Stan, since when has the majority military grunts (the front lines unless they're commandos, Navy seals, etc.) in this country been kids other than the poorest who have little choice to *see the world* and to *get a paid education* but in the military...as the commercials go.

I'm reminded of your words Stan, that if you were placed on moderation, or banned you would *deserve it*...as if the AEC is *infallible*. Me thinks you need a refresher course in humanity 101.

~A