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Poetry how we should write it, or not?

There is no need to criticise a thing because of it being personal, who says we shouldn't write things personal? Isn't it a free world, perhaps if one is tied hand and foot to the protocol of poetry as stipulated by the...by whom I do not know.

"Poets are soldiers that liberate words from the steadfast possession of definition.  ~Eli Khamarov, The Shadow Zone"

I know that if you are to fence someone, you have to stick to the rules for fair play, otherwise you might end up dead(in the past anyway), then the rules are good for human beings, but why should something that pours from the heart and mind be this or that at all, isn't that up to the individual to decide?

Of course a thorough knowledge of the language one writes should be there, but not necessarily in the form required by acedemia, just as Robert Burns who wrote in colloquial Scottish was discriminated against, or Hans Christian Andersen who couldn't spell, so its not that important, what is is the quality of the art, the expression, and the manner in which it affects its audience, how otherwise can there be new thinking in poetry? 

If its to go into a particular style or academic predetermined metre, or whatever, then it has to conform, of course, but here we are learning the art of poetry, and do not know all the rules, and if we did, would we then be able to write poetry?  Maybe we too would feel so bound hand and foot, that our freedom of expression would become mannered and lack the very essence we describe as "art."
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The Poesieringen in Norway has just had someone who criticised a woman for sending in her description of her child who was born with Downs syndrome, and said it too was too personal, this resulted in enormous discussions and I wrote this to them after many detailed writes, by the various members:-

Dear A. and Poesieringens medlemmer.(members) 
A few of my thoughts about poetry with regard to the on-going arguments.

We are all different: "Vive la diffèrence" say I. When we write poetry its not always with the predetermined form and style, quality and character that is either tried or determined beforehand, it comes from the psyche, from the heart.

It can also be created as a craft object for perusal, but any art object without heart in it, is dead, it has a cynicism that deters our minds and thoughts from taking part in its character, when a poem grips us, from whatever psychological angle, it has its own song to sing, its rhythm, its rhyme, its music, as well as its meaning, and whatever its subject, can touch our senses not necessarily because of its content, but in its very existence, like a floating leaf down the river, moving and dancing on the currents, showing us the flow of nature in its own subtle language.

So we are again, as I say, all different and this variety of poetry entertains and informs, helps and brings out the best and the worst in us as all art can do; awake latent inspiration and add to this world an expression of what it is to be human.
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A few of what is out there in the way of quotes:-

A poet is an unhappy being whose heart is torn by secret sufferings, but whose lips are so strangely formed that when the sighs and the cries escape them, they sound like beautiful music... and then people crowd about the poet and say to him:  "Sing for us soon again;" that is as much as to say, "May new sufferings torment your soul."  ~Soren Kierkegaard
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Who can tell the dancer from the dance?  ~William Butler Yeats
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Perhaps no person can be a poet, or can even enjoy poetry, without a certain unsoundness of mind.  ~Thomas Babington Macaulay
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Poetry is the revelation of a feeling that the poet believes to be interior and personal which the reader recognizes as his own.  ~Salvatore Quasimodo
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Poetry is life distilled.  ~Gwendolyn Brooks
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A poet's autobiography is his poetry.  Anything else is just a footnote.  ~Yevgeny Yentushenko, The Sole Survivor, 1982

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We don't read and write poetry because it's cute.  We read and write poetry because we are members of the human race.  And the human race is filled with passion.  And medicine, law, business, engineering, these are noble pursuits and necessary to sustain life.  But poetry, beauty, romance, love, these are what we stay alive for.  Dead Poet's Society
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I don't create poetry, I create myself, for me my poems are a way to me.  ~Edith Södergran

We can add our own as we think fit maybe? This is fun what?

Ann.

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Seems I remember reading that one should write what he/she knows and what does one know better than self ?
Of course unless a person is an exceptional poet folks WILL tire of reading the same old commiserations and drift away.................stan

Mand's quote in her comment to Longo's Sychronicity:-

"Poetry, to me, is unique to the individual.
my song rings beauty to some
out of key to others.
Often it is very personal and precious to the individual who wrote it, it helps us to iron out our feelings, to come to terms ( or put into perspective ) with lifes struggles and problems. Some will like it, some will not, some will understand it, some will not.
I've learnt something from your poem today.
Thank your for sharing your poem."

I shall add bits here love Ann.

"The image of yourself which you see in a mirror Is dead,
but the reflection of the moon on water, lives." Kenzan.

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Haven't got much time to comment - suffice to say I am in total agreement with you. To hold a poet down to protocol would destroy free artistic expression.

Thank Ann - I like your wisdom and common sense.

Love Mand xxxxx

Love the quotes Ann.

Well, here I go out on a limb again.

My whole agenda here, as it were, is to be of *skillful means* to make better poets. I belong to other groups where this is not required and communication is of another nature.

It's never been a question of *personal*. A poet either writes from his/her own heart or steals other's poetry. Or makes believe. It's about entertainment value as much as anything. Perhaps there are some who watch only war movies, or Lifetime channel (women's weepy stories) or comedy, or telethons, or beauty contests, etc. etc. So what happens when poetry is solely one sided about only one aspect of one's life, and done with the same voice, using the same words? It becomes mundane, boring and evokes *been there done that* to the point that if no names were above the poem, we'd know instantly whose they are.

Human beings have a plethora of emotions running through us, to stay in one emotion constantly and write poetry from it, I think stifles our creative juices. Yes we can become
astoundingly great in writing poetry of a certain genre, no matter the subject, but are we
growing as human beings???????

I feel sorrowful about world affairs and my activism genes kick in. I write. I feel angry and write. Horny and write. Etc. etc. The next thing is how we write. What words do we use?
How do we use them, what format do we use them in, how are our metaphors?

METAPHORS folks are the essence of poetry. Period. The feelings a poem evokes are the life-blood of a poem. And our compassionate natures are of skillful means to evolve the poet in their lives and so their poem.

Too many of us have decided to make *enemies* of one another instead of being free enough to enjoy the fact that some one cares enough to read and offer a critique on our poems. Often it becomes an issue, we decide to pack up our marbles and go home, or threaten to do so.

I won't be playing that game anymore. I just won't read any of that poet's poems.

~A

Thanks for your input Anna its good to see other peoples
views on poetry especially here in a poets haven.
Love Ann

"The image of yourself which you see in a mirror Is dead,
but the reflection of the moon on water, lives." Kenzan.

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