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WHY HAS GUNNAR HEDLUND BEEN BLOCKED

i've spoken to Gunnar and he's unable to get on the site and wants to know what can be done!!!! why has he been blocked?
Please contact me or unblock him
thank you, valene

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administration determined that he is a person who has been banned from the site, permanently , in the past for continuous disregard of site guidelines. Although he was banned under another pen name he tried to circumvent the ban by taking on another"identity". A lifetime ban is not done litely and is usually reserved for people who repeatedly break guidelines........stan

I read him your response and he asked me to send you his reply....this is directly from him

when i last left the cite as ephraim crud, i left of my own volition.
i was not banned, so why am i now?
i had to start a new account, as the cite regulations doesn't permit one to register a second time with the same name.
what else could i do?
besides, surely some notification from the board would have been right, not just banned without a hearing.
furthermore, i'm needed here. i'm the only one with any fire in the belly :)

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I was not on the AC when you earned this ban but I remember your showing up under yet another fake alias after having been warned a bunch of times and even suspended a bunch and always for the same reason...assuming more than a single identity on site. I am certain this ban was not done lightly because a lot of people here, including myself, liked your work and thought well of you as writer. I am still not an AC member and that being so I can't speak for the present AC. One thing I do think is that to have a lifetime ban be overturned would not be a good idea for the site. But I guess you are free to contact those who are within the administration and plead your case.........stan

i did pass your first message along and shall do the same with this. i'm simply the messenger and mean no one disrespect. again, i appreciate your responding and your honesty.

valene

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as a poet, though his intent seemed often to make a mockery of what we try to do here, and have done successfully for over ten years- a democratically run site by poets for poets.

He has abused other members personally, he has broken the guidelines repeatedly, he has been unrepentant and dishonest by just coming back under false names.

We have gotten better at tracking IPs and that, along with his distinctive style, is how he got caught. I've gone to war on his behalf to get get him let back in in the past but he betrayed my trust in him by reverting to old abusive behaviours.

Tell him for me that, with deep regret, he can fuck off forever.

cheers,
Jess
A new workshop on the most important element of poetry-
'Rhythm and Meter in Poetry'
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/rhythm-and-meter-poetry

I shall read this to him Jess.
I appreciate your honesty

valene

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i'm the only one with any fire in the belly :)"

No, you're not, you're an up-yourself self-aggrandizing cunt. That's been part of the problem from the very beginning, you think you are so much better than everyone else. You are a fine poet but a total dick of a person. You've never done a thing to help build the site, never volunteered to help with anything, just tear things down.

That statement alone makes clear how much more you are a Nero than a participating member. You giggle as you set fires. You are neither needed nor wanted.

cheers,
Jess
A new workshop on the most important element of poetry-
'Rhythm and Meter in Poetry'
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/rhythm-and-meter-poetry

Jess, first let me say, i'm simply the messenger here and mean no one of the AC disrespect! Though I do find the word 'cunt' a bit abusive as a woman, i realize you're addressing him and not me. 'Tis obvious both you and Ephraim have very strong feelings about the issue and at this point there's nothing more for me to say....'tis between you and him.
i shall pass your messages along and wish you well.
happy 2018

valene

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It's the strongest abusive word I know, in current usage, apart from 'faith', which most people don't recognise as an unutterably filthy word.
I've been watching 'Ash vs Versus Evil Dead' in which one of the heroines constantly refers to one of the heroes as a 'powerful vagina'.
Anyone with any sense knows cunts are stronger, physiologically bigger and more powerful than dicks.
I only used it as a swear word, ok?

cheers,
Jess
A new workshop on the most important element of poetry-
'Rhythm and Meter in Poetry'
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/rhythm-and-meter-poetry

Don't wish to be over dramatic here, but, My Gawd, why on earth anyone would ban such talent escapes me. I can only guess that its envy or jealousy.

Obi.

This arrogant, self obsessed prick has been abusing, lying and undermining Neopoet for 8 years.

When you have to deal with the self aggrandising prick who prefers to cause harm to the site rather than to volunteer to help improve it then you have a right to an opinion.

Otherwise shut up and fuck off from this blog..

cheers,
Jess
A new workshop on the most important element of poetry-
'Rhythm and Meter in Poetry'
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/rhythm-and-meter-poetry

OOooo dear,, perhaps you are right; then again, perhaps not.
Although, I've read much of Ephs work, and a little of yours, guess what, you don't come up to scratch mate.

Bye bye. Obi.

Without any grudge about anyone i wish to share an opinion.

The Administrators and Directors of Neopoet and the entire team are making it possible for us to have the privilege of sharing good things here. I am pretty sure that the decisions they make are on merit and/or based on some objections / complaints after evaluating them. Their decision needs to be respected. If at all anyone is not satisfied I hope they can approach them directly rather than fire at each other.

May peace prevail ..
........................................

Regards...

raj (sublime_ocean)

but surely one should be given a reason for being banned before being so?
is this not the way things should be done in a democracy?
or is this animal farm country?

Best wishes.....val

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No amount of shelling and cross fire will serve useful purpose. You are right about knowing the reason and I believe those who run the Site know the reason and the person affected should seek answers from them. From what I learn they have given more than one opportunity to the person to follow the guidelines of the house..trying to come in as an imposter is certainly not the way and will not please those who run the show with dedication and investing their resources in terms of time. energy and money

Regards...

raj (sublime_ocean)

All people's opinions are welcome here but you might want to know the history of this guy before taking sides.
But let me first say that I agree he is one of the most talented poets to have landed here and his comments were usually very helpful. I had come to consider him a friend.
But there is one hard rule here that he kept insisting on breaking. A person can post only one non-workshop poem per day. That's pretty simple isn't it? It's a bit inconvenient at times when the muse is really on a roll but it's here for a reason. There is limited time for all members to comment and/or critique on poems even with people posting one per day. Just look at the "undiscovered works" list if you don't think this is so. Hence by putting this limit in place (which has been here much longer than i have) it gives everybody a better chance at being read and to read others.
So what does the AC do to somebody who doesn't follow this rule? First the person is warned. If that doesn't stop multiple postings then the person gets a short suspension. If that doesn't work the a long suspension is imposed.Now Ephraim went through all these chances. And when told his next break of rules would result in a ban he decided that he would circumvent the rules by creating more than one identity and thus keep posting multiple poems per day under different names. But these AC guys aren't as dumb as they look and he got caught creating different accounts and got suspended for about a year if my memory serves (And this was when by rights he should have been banned then).During this lengthy suspension he tried to sneak back in under yet another name.
Now all of this happened over a period of time. And I personally asked, indeed pleaded with him to not break rules again if he was allowed to return. He promised me and the AC that if let back on site he'd play by the rules. So he was let back in at end of suspension. And he kept his word......for a few months. I guess he must have a character fault about thinking rules are for other people, not for him. Because he decided to do the multiple identity thing yet one more time. That one more time was his last.
This is what led to his being banned and even then The AC members did so reluctantly. But he'd left them with no choice.
Perhaps if there was some way in which he could convince the present AC that if let back in he'd do right they'd reconsider. But he has promised to do so at least 4 times that I know of and thus his word means nothing......sigh. Too bad because he Is a good poet and was a friend.
Hopefully this will answer any questions you might have about this distasteful matter.......stan holliday ( former AC member)

Thanks Stan for enlightening us with facts which convinces me further that the decision was made by the AC in a democratic way ...this should also clear minds of those who feel it was bias / unfair..

Regards and thanks...

raj (sublime_ocean)

is total clap-trap. let me put you straight:
Mr Crud was only ever banned once, for the reasons you have given, and rightly so (though his motives were to wheedle those up to the same tricks (Hi Jess!), and to show the lunacy of the rating system that was then in place).
When Mr Crud was un-banned and allowed back, he had to change his name as (as i've said elsewhere) the site will not allow the same username, and everybody, as far as he was concerned, knew who he was. He subsequently withdrew his membership after some shenanigans between the little man and the lunar chappie.
He then returned at some time later as 'Gunnar Hedlund' (because he couldn't use his previous username!) and, as before, as far as he was aware everyone knew who he was -and if they didn't, it was by choice.
If this is how you show your democracy about these neck of the woods, then, in the words of Mr Crud, 'thank god for wartner!'

Best witches....val

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These exchanges smell like Trump v/s Mueller investigation about Russian Collusion also because I notice wishes have turned to witches...lol.... fun apart.may we move on please..

raj (sublime_ocean)

the sofa stuck in an alleyway off Greek Street?

oh look, it's a headless, flightless avium from oz!

can i be one?

Best wishes....val

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Haha Val good humor

raj (sublime_ocean)

Fuck him, he fucked up, banned forever.

Nothing more needs to be said.

cheers,
Jess
A new workshop on the most important element of poetry-
'Rhythm and Meter in Poetry'
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/rhythm-and-meter-poetry

erudite statement pretty much sums it up.

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