Many of these do get read..
commenting varies...Sometimes the works personal feeling..
Sometimes its worded or written not in a traditional
story telling verse..
So the meaning may be diffused

Ive commented on some of the undiscovereds and will
come back to it again when things slow down at home
and work..
I dont think its a bad thing..
having undiscovered
a lot of the poets whom are on this list have many
poems posted and get much commenting on their
others works...

for me its like a B side record...
or a movie that doesnt get a great
reception but becomes its one little
treasure in time with others

like poets...many didnt get famous
until after they were gone
and discovered by a whole
new fanbase

great place about Neo
is ive heard it been said
some complaints about the
pop feel of some of its
poets
so you write more deeper
examinations and some of
them are neglected
and mentioned as been
too obtuse...

but we can write and post
expression

Thank You for mentioning
this..and bringing this up!

The suggestion of changing the definition of "undiscovered" Was made by one person but it was approved by vote of the entire AC. .............stan

Today I PM'd 27 of our poets asking them if they were OK and if they were going to stream more works, most of them were from four yeas ago, I have had three replies so far.
I started from the page 10 of the undiscovered works.
I think it is a start to regain some of our long standing poets.
One of the replies talked about being bullied so I have pointed out the changes the AC have made and it seemed to be OK.
Time will tell,
As Stan said, it was a suggestion from a poet and was passed by the AC about the number of comments.
But it made a long list of poems, though it is handy to see who has stopped writing.
I think we should work on the number of poets that cant be bothered to comment on others, using this site as a self portrait.
That will do for now there are a few other things we really should do but that can wait.
Yours as always, Ian

"somewhere I read it was at the suggestion of One person". Yes, I suggested it, then it was discussed by the AC and unanimously voted in. You make it sound like some sort of cloak and dagger back-room coup. The administration/government of any organisation makes most decisions except for major changes that seriously affect every member. When was the last time the US had a referendum? If every change was made an all members vote nothing would ever get done.

As to the change itself, we did not anticipate such a huge blowout of the undiscovered works list, we were seeking to promote a deeper level of feedback is all and I agree it needs to be addressed but perhaps not by reverting to no comments, perhaps a time cut-off. What does everyone think about this?

It did have the unexpected benefit of showing us a great many members no longer active that some of us have been contacting and asking what they would like to see on Neopoet. Some are returning.

This matter is being directly discussed by the AC and we will ask the websites opinion at the appropriate time. As always you know how to keep me on my toes that's why I would like to thank you for bringing this to my attention personally. As always I would like to thank my colleagues and fellow directors how do I invite them to come up with a couple of ideas to solve this problem for the website thank you

This pretty much all boils down to one question doesn't it? Why do some poems and or poets get overlooked when it come to commentary on their works? I have been told by some members that they often forego commenting on a poem if they have no suggestions for improvement. Then there are poets who concentrate on a single theme which leads to folks saying "there he goes again." then they just skip over to the next poem (I know, I write too many nature based poems lol). Then there are the occasional poems which are so bad that maybe people don't want to start dissecting it because they don't know where they'd stop. And there are a tiny number of poets here who seldom respond to comments on their works. (this is rude enough that in my opinion they deserve their commentless fate.)

So, does requiring more than a single comment do anything to address these reasons for a poem getting few comments? I think the length of the undiscovered list shows that the answer is no. But it Was worth trying. Any idea to increase commentary is worth trying I think. Perhaps simply requiring that one comment on a single poem (with some kind of minimum requirement on length) before posting a poem of their own might work.
Just an idea from the peanut gallery.............stan

thanks, Stan.

Alright guys, we have identified a problem. This is good.

Stan, you've got some good observations. I don't like the idea of requiring comments just because I used to use a site with a similar policy, and to put it plainly, it was such a huge pain in the ass. Then someone could make a total BS comment and just post their own peice. Should we be encouraging people to participate? Yes, sure. But I strongly advise against forcing people to, because that's when they COMPLETELY lose interest.

the idea of requiring more than one comment to get a poem off the undiscovered list has apparently not worked out we need alternate ideas. i am also on a site which requires comments on at least 2 poems before post a poem of my own. But the list to choose from is often pretty dreary which makes it a chore.

So does anybody have another idea? Maybe the top commenter each month or week could be allowed to post more than one poem per day for a defined period of time? Surely there are a lot of ideas out there so let's hear them.........stan

If the number of reads is noted as it was before, and a piece ends up with less than a number to be decided then it can be put in the undiscovered place but call it, something else.
Re Work area or something, but if we returned to the number of reads then the poet concerned would know that his/her poem needs some help.
Leave it up to the writer, I myself take off poems that don't get many comments, but before when the reads were registered I would put the ones that had many reads into a separate place here, as they would be worth a lot more attention from me..
Bring back the hit counter the rest will take care of its self, Yours Ian..

on the undiscovered poems list.

Will be re-raising hit counter with the AC

I personally took time out from a busy schedule
to sit one evening and comment on the Unrecovered
amazing poetry everyone contributes Here
My Fellow Poets!
I made it a great and caring effort
to be the first too comment on these virgin works
(Ignoring my own!!)
I actually think I went through seven

and I want too say that down too two pages is
pretty good for the volume that We Poets
on Our democratic Neopoet puts up!

another week and I shall plan to do this
again..Very cathartic!

Its very good too see people who regularly
and often write poetry
it means their muse and their Grit
keep them firing away at the
keyboards
active production
and active
participation
Like Me! Yayy Me!

thank U all
will see U on the trail!

Mr Wolf!

If the undiscovered list thing was a big issue
per say the entire democratic vote here
other then a few members musing
about this

what the business ethic thing
would too be focus on the two
mere pages of work and deal
with it...

I worked for very wealthy independent
companies and brilliant creative
people..all business flourish
too this day

I worked inventory too

it would simply be this
merely dedicate an entire
twenty four hour period
to clearing up that
section...Meaning
no posting of ones
own work...
of all our members
those whom have
paid for the benifit
of extra bells
and whistles
of which people
Like I cannot afford
this chore is not
affective of rank
or prestige
but could be
Effective in its
outcome

simple solutions
for simple issues

it gets a mess
with politics
and the control
redundant whines
of mumbo jumbo

Or...as Ian was
describing
is there a murkier
purpose in suggesting
a Deleting of works
with no comments

which is not required
as the site is large enough
to store such data
why clip the prolific
to those who post little

would be the same
as too ask those
that do not write much
poetry here to
be gauged by performance

wow...I got good Ideas!

that is all

Thank U!

I really mean those that do not contribute as many
works as others....

and No Ian..U did not suggest anything
the technical brilliant and creative
U said what U do

best thing about keeping writing
is that just because U dont have an A side
hit sometimes the B side hits are the
ones that really clicks with people

Personally
I read the works here
and often its hard to
comment...
the work is so personal
intimate
or the usual
comprehension
but they are beautiful
because someone
poured their heart
and soul into it
and too be brave
enough too post
works is amazing

some of the greatest
poets and poetesses
were so shy...hurt
and scalded by the
thick and obtuse
critics of the Lord
Over All's lacking
talent..

I keep this in mind
always...

that is all part two
over..

thank U!

Spot on Steven, and, as you say, very rewarding.

There is no murky purpose anywhere, I'm sure. I just read through this thread and can't find where anyone suggested a Deleting of works with no comments. Did I miss it? Poems are never and will never be deleted by anyone except the author on Neopoet, except where they flagrantly violate the guidelines, and even then only after warnings.