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IMAGERY IN POETRY (for everyone)

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Program description/goal: 

Description: A workshop exploring the different types of and uses of imagery

Leader: Stan Holliday (scribbler)
Moderator(s):

Objectives: To get used to using all types imagery effectively

Level of expertise: Open to all

Subject matter:
We will define, discuss and use all types imagery

Length: 
10 days
Number of participants (limit): 
10 people
Skill level: 
Date: 
Friday, March 9, 2012
Short description: 
We will begin by defining imagery and its different forms. Each member will then choose fro a list of subjects and be assigned a type of imagery to be used in writing a poem on his subject. Poems will then be opened for comment. After comment period each

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As I was saying......After comment period each member will then be given the chance to rewrite his/her poem using whichever type imagery they prefer. This shop is designed to be of benefit to all without requiring too much work........stan

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this one should be fun. I would like to join. ~ Gee

There is value to commenting and critique, tell us how you feel about our work.
This must be the place, 'cause there ain't no place like this place anywhere near this place.

Glad to have you join us..............stan

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This should be fun and educational. I look forward, with much anticipation!

always, Cat (& eddy)

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I hope for fun with accidental learning .............stan

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I woo her constantly and she just rolls her eyes. Can you promise that after the workshop I can ask her for a date and not have things thrown at me?
Seriously, Jess and I recently spoke of this (he's probably forgotten by now). I would give my rotting teeth if I could write something that evoked a place, a feeling or a desire with few words and only words instead of forty lines of description.
Generally speaking, if I don't have a cast of characters, forty lines of action and something exploding I can't produce much excitement.
Make of me a better poet.
I know! Everytime Cat posts something have the software put my name on it. It's not perfect, but it might work.
wesley

W. H. Snow

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LOL! Thanks! That is quite a compliment and it made me smile!

always, Cat

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I'm either gonna teach you a little bit or make your head explode lol. I certainly hope this will at least make you more at ease in courting imagery.........stan

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I've got 2 slots left. So if you know anybody else who might like in feel free to send them my way.........stan

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Lets dance together, to wake the forest of words,
the Neopoet Forest, where all manner of things can take place,
dazzle our eyes and tempt our thoughts,
to create in the rainbow mists of the beautiful,
and the dark prisms of the ugly, sad, strange and wonderful,
real and imagined flourishes,
mad and passionate, peaceful and thunderous,
jazzed and rapped, singular and plural,
poetry to curdle your blood
and set it afire with enthusiasm.

U NO HOO

"The image of yourself which you see in a mirror Is dead,
but the reflection of the moon on water, lives." Kenzan.

I have really been suprised at the enthusiasm for this shop. Can hardly wait for the 9th.............stan

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Like an Orca seeing a seal on an ice floe, I am expecting my muse to satisfy my hunger by upsetting the status quo. But I'm not so sure about the imagery, is that like the movie in your head that you try to write the sub-titles for ?

Ian

TIME FLIES LIKE AN ARROW, BUT FRUIT FLIES LIKE A BANANA

That is lovely and chock full of imagery!

always, Cat

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Do we begin

Chrys
Let your mercy spill on all these burning hearts in hell(Leonard Cohen)

We will start on the 9th..............stan

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Imagery- The art of making images;figurative language Webster's 9th Collegiate Dictionary

But imagery in poetry is much more than these stale words imply. It's the way to put the reader wherever you want them, It's the description of a setting sun. It's the difference between plain prose and poetry e.g. "I saw a house's old foundation" as opposed to "I came upon a house today, Though most of it had gone away, And left behind its mossy bones, Of listing piers and cracked hearthstones".

So let's start by discussing what your ideas of imagery are and the different types of imagery...........stan

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Imagery to me is the art of making words come to life.
The use of color, texture, sight and sounds all add to project an image whether it be something beautiful or just the opposite. Describing ones emotions with imagery is essential as otherwise the words would be monotone
Chrys

Chrys
Let your mercy spill on all these burning hearts in hell(Leonard Cohen)

I like to think of it as a means of describing the world to somebody who is blind or deaf. Like placing a painting or song in someone else's head

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exactly!

Chrys
Let your mercy spill on all these burning hearts in hell(Leonard Cohen)

Of all the aspects of my poetry, successful imagery is the most difficult to attain. I know what it is, because I despise reading something that will not describe my environment, my characters, my scenario with (forgive me, but I'm going to use it) flowery words. I don't only mean metaphor and simile. I mean attractively phrased explanations.
I read my Tolkien about once every couple of years and to this day I can open any one of the books, begin reading and be carried away by the loveliness of the language. I don't need to know what's happening. The words alone will move me.
This is something I have been unable to achieve. My poetry, of course, is brutally precise and my imagery is... competent if uninspired. I am (I will not pretend otherwise) a spectacular story teller.
However, as my blog stated some months back, I believe that poetry is first and foremost- beauty in language. In no other way as a writer do I feel more inadequate.
wesley

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There is a narrow path in using imagery.Too much and one risks being redundant, not enough and full meaning is not conveyed. e.g. The dark moonless cloudy night in which no bright cheerful stars are seen....too much, a black night not quite enough....................stan

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Stan makes an excellent point here
the most simple words can create an image
example
I walked into the kitchen and saw the stove

well so what
but
I walked into the kitchen and saw the stove laden with grease.
I didn't use but two extra words and it made a big difference in the sentience

I used this as an example one time when I was teaching and the response I got was a big
ewwwww lol
I have rad many books (novels) where the author went on an on with their descriptions needless to say I never finished the books

Chrys
Let your mercy spill on all these burning hearts in hell(Leonard Cohen)

"I walked into the kitchen and saw the stove"
It looked at me with a greasy grin,
its mammoth hulk accusing me of pure neglect... lol

"The image of yourself which you see in a mirror Is dead,
but the reflection of the moon on water, lives." Kenzan.

LOL I would have loved to have had you in my class This is brilliant!!

Chrys
Let your mercy spill on all these burning hearts in hell(Leonard Cohen)

chiming in my ears, and feel ready for the oven, covered in .....as I am!
I didn't like the flowery language of my parents when they went into raptures at the old bards, but then one day at boarding school, where I was for four years, I decided they had been going on at me too much, to say something 'flowery' so I piled it on and THICK:

The teachers, who read our letters home each week(!!!!) were in raptures about my letter- so t oblige them I continued, and possibly still do-...I hide my face. I do however try to make the imagery fit the subject and somehow enhance it, not wishing to paint it too colourfully, just wishing to bring out the essence of what I am describing, hoping by doing so the reader can see it too.

I would agree that some of the past poets over romantic and flowery, have made it difficult to use some words without evoking sighs, bluuurge! and in the type of poetry you write it just might step over the edge into a false paradise.

Ah me! AND one can use the same imagery too many times, I constantly bump into certain descriptive words and finding new ones is difficult to say the least.

I know exactly what you mean about the style of writing, in fact if the style in a book is not interesting I find it extra difficult to read. The Book of Tea, is so beautifully written, and off hand I remember being so excited by Osbert Sitwell in "Left Hand Right hand," unlike the American (general) style, the sentences could take a whole long paragraph, just like listening to a Bach fugue, nearly reaching the end and just then starting the thought anew and so on as I rode the words much as I find I do in your poetry. Oops but that's perhas another angle on poetry and literature, we must stick to imagery n'est pas?

Nordic cloud.

"The image of yourself which you see in a mirror Is dead,
but the reflection of the moon on water, lives." Kenzan.

have fun!

cheers,
Jess
A new workshop on the most important element of poetry-
'Rhythm and Meter in Poetry'
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/rhythm-and-meter-poetry

Thanks, and I Intend for us to all have a good tme...............stan

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I've an early morning coming up but Ya'll continue on and I'll check back in the morn............stan

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I am here reading and taking it all in. But I think it has all been said before I arrived! Imagery fleshes out the poem and makes it live.

always, Cat (& eddy)

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This evening we will start talking about the different types of imagery. But ya'll keep on putting your thoughts of what imagery means to poetry till then..................stan

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I looked in the web!

Wikepedia:-
Auditory imagery represents a sound.
▪ The bells chimed 2 o'clock and Daniel got ready for school.
▪ Onomatopoeia: a word that makes a sound.
Kinesthetic imagery represents movement topo manda
▪ as in Wordsworth's poem Daffodils: "tossing their heads in sprightly dance"
Olfactory imagery represents a smell.
▪ Gio's socks, still soaked with sweat from Tuesday's P.E. class, filled the classroom with an aroma akin to that of salty, week-old, rotting fish.
Gustatory imagery represents a taste.
▪ The sweet marinara sauce makes up for the bland sea-shell pasta that Jeffrey served.
▪ Tumbling through the ocean water after being overtaken by the monstrous wave, Mark unintentionally took a gulp of the briny, bitter mass, causing him to cough and gag.
Tactile imagery represents touch.
▪ Yalimar dug her feet into the wet sand, burying her toes inside the beach as cold waves lapped at her ankles.
▪ The clay oozed between Jeremy's fingers as he let out a squeal of pure glee.
Imagery can be showcased in many forms, such as metaphors and similes.

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Imagination, also called the faculty of imagining, is the ability of forming images and sensations when they are not perceived through sight, hearing, or other senses. Imagination helps provide meaning to experience and understanding to knowledge; it is a fundamental faculty through which people make sense of the world, and it also plays a key role in the learning process.

A basic training for imagination is listening to storytelling (Narrative), in which the exactness of the chosen words is the fundamental factor to "evoke worlds." (Hey Wesley!!)

It is a whole cycle of image formation or any sensation which may described as "hidden" as it takes place without anyone else's knowledge.The research has proven about 60% people to be imaginative. A person may imagine according to his mood, it may be good or bad depending on the situation. Some people imagine in state of tension or gloominess in order to calm themselves. It is accepted as the innate ability and process of inventing partial or complete personal realms within the mind from elements derived from sense perceptions of the shared world. The term is technically used in psychology for the process of reviving in the mind percepts of objects formerly given in sense perception. Since this use of the term conflicts with that of ordinary language, some psychologists have preferred to describe this process as"imaging" or "imagery" or to speak of it as "reproductive" as opposed to "productive" or "constructive" imagination. Imagined images are seen with the "mind's eye.":
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The idea image comes from the senses, the image chosen appears, is heard, is touched, is felt in the mind and sends the imagination on a virtual journey to find more, to add more meaning to the image. The word imagination contains the word image-something conjured up apart from the senses that is evoked in the mind by other images or behaviours. ann.
(What I wrote about it first then looked in the web)
Enough for the moment? Nordic cloud.

"The image of yourself which you see in a mirror Is dead,
but the reflection of the moon on water, lives." Kenzan.

If I can analyse it, I can learn it.
In my writing I am always trying to produce evocative lines, but only pull it off sparingly.

From Book Two, Canto Eight

A pavonine gloss rarefied 130
now shimmers from her carnal frame.
The White Queen shines as though aflame.

I would fill everything I write with at least this level of imagery, but this (as most of the better) is luck of the draw for me.
wesley

W. H. Snow

A poet is a nightingale, who sits in darkness and sings to cheer its own solitude with sweet sounds. Percy Bysshe Shelley

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Thought you said you had a problem with imagery lol
this little piece is chock full of imagery

Chrys
Let your mercy spill on all these burning hearts in hell(Leonard Cohen)

The thing that has helped me the most in not overdoing imagery is to try to write in a conversational manner. When one over does it it's pretty easy then to tell. I can't see myself telling somebody " The white cold clear frosty morning in the midst of freezing unforgiving and harsh winter.".......If it sounds like a run on sentence it's probably not good poetry. So I always try to use the simplest and fewest words I can get by with and still convey what I want PS what the heck is pavonine gloss? lol

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... is the color scheme in a peacock's tale or anything like it. You know me and my vocabulary. It's a curse. wesley

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Learn something new every dal lol. thanks..........stan

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Has the list of subjects been published yet stan?
Ann.

"The image of yourself which you see in a mirror Is dead,
but the reflection of the moon on water, lives." Kenzan.

jus' checkin' in.

So in a simplified list the types of imagery are:
Visual- what one sees
Auditory- what one hears
Tactile- what one feels by touch
Kenetic- the forms of motion
Olfactory- what one smells
Gustatory- what one tastes

In my opinion the one most often used is Visual and the one I've run across the least is Olfactory.

now for our 1st exercise let's all write 1 sentence or verse using each one and only one per sentence. I'll kick it off.
Visual- My gaze took in a lonesome hollow
Auditory- The wind sighed through the pines
Tactile- A birch with bark as smooth as leather
Kenetic- Clouds raced each other through the sky
Olfactory- The smell of old death hung in the air
Gustatory- Her lips were sweet as cotton candy

We can warm up doing this simple exercise in preparation for me posting subjects tomorrow. Everybody please try to complete this as well as comment on others' verses by Sunday evening.............PS Post it in worksop

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Happening upon a coven of witches(visual)
The cackling,cracked sound of the old hag's voices(auditory)
Forced me to cover my ears
In doing so I felt I had not human ears but that of a wolf(tactile)
I felt the wind blowing through my fur,all else was a blur(Kenetic)
Except I was able to smell the fear of my prey(Olfactory)
The air had a flavor of a fresh kill(Gustatory)

did I post this in the correct place Stan or no

Chrys
Let your mercy spill on all these burning hearts in hell(Leonard Cohen)

You went beyond the call of duty in forming lines into a poem lol.I think in your tactile line the feeling was emotive rather than tactile. tactile should describe how something feels against one's skin.........not human ears but rather the silken ears of a wolf, or some such. and your gustatory line in my opinion is more an olfactory one.It's often difficult to keep olfactory and gustatory apart as they are so tied together..............stan

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But But lol you said sentence or verse sniffle sniffle lol

Chrys
Let your mercy spill on all these burning hearts in hell(Leonard Cohen)

I thought your list (in poem form) very good. Love the darkness. You do it so well! I thought it was well done, but I'm having a bit of trouble with the types, myself.

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I revised the two sentences that Stan had pointed out though for the ease of th workshop
keep forgetting which pool I'm in lol

Chrys
Let your mercy spill on all these burning hearts in hell(Leonard Cohen)

Some of the types can kind of run together and especially smell and taste as they are so intertwined

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Chrys' entry and your commentary help. I knew I was going to have a time at this. wesley

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I am pleased you are finding value in this shop. I think some of the ingredients of good poetry are more of an art and others a bit more of a science. The parts(like imagery) which have few set rules might well be harder to learn precisely because there are so few rules to use as a guide. This is part of the difference between science and art and plain prose and poetry. But have no fear, we'll both learn something here even if it's by accident lol.....stan

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Said the little fly with the human head. wesley

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but if you are a human and reach up to your ears to find they are wolves ears instead that would mean you felt the shape etc wouldn't it
but if you wish I can change that line
to
In doing so I felt not human ears
but the rounded furry ears of a wolf
any better lol

Have you never tasted the air but ok I'll change that line as well for the sake of the workshop
hmmm

Th night dew on my tongue had the taste of a fresh kill
any better

Chrys
Let your mercy spill on all these burning hearts in hell(Leonard Cohen)

Upon rereading I see you are right about the wolf ears line. But the second way you wrote it does not require a careful read to convey what you mean and is thus in my opinion superior to the 1st version. I have been around many fresh killed game and cattle. Every time the blood was smelled not tasted although sometimes the smell was so strong as to almost seem a taste. Now both your versions of this taste line work well in the poem but for this shop it would be preferable to try to put actual unequivicable taste in the line. But This is Your line and my opinion is only that. Told you smell and taste might be hard to separate lol............stan

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That my friend is why when you have a cold you also cannot taste anything. You need the sense of smell in order to taste
whichever r version works for the workshop lol
I should re write my creative writing book. I did extensive research so the contents would be factual.

try this if you will hold your nose then try eating something that is strong , a strong cheese etc youw ill find you cannot taste it. I love the idea that you are using the five senses

For the workshop I will keep it simple but on the other hand if you don't think about what you are reading then I feel I haven't written it properly lol
jus giving the leader a hard time lol

Chrys
Let your mercy spill on all these burning hearts in hell(Leonard Cohen)

There you go assuming I Have a brain to think with lol.........stan

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In mighty waves old Neptune's bath was filled to overflow the coast......visual
Her scream of victory resounded through the pass into the night.................audio
He fell into a thorny gorse bush, soft skin pierced a thousand times..........tactile.
Storm clouds fled across the sky like roe deer running from the wolf.........kinetic.
Corruption, rank and now so close that nostrils wrinkled ln each face..........olfactory
The sweet red wine of Tuscany was his but only for one night. ....................tasty

Or something like that?

Ian

TIME FLIES LIKE AN ARROW, BUT FRUIT FLIES LIKE A BANANA

You forgot to identify each type of imagery. It's my hope that members not in the shop might also be following and identifying each line would help them as well as us. but other than that , terrific..........stan

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My apologies for jumplng the gun with a poem, must start to read instructions

Ian

TIME FLIES LIKE AN ARROW, BUT FRUIT FLIES LIKE A BANANA

No need apologize. I tried to simplify this by not requiring the lines form a poem so you just exceeded what was needed. And the different types can Very easily be mixed. Your kinetic and visual could almost be interchanged. ...stan

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Very nicely done! Excellent imagery of all kinds.

always, Cat (& eddy)

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I don't think we jumped the gun as the instructions had stated either a sentence or a verse lol

Chrys
Let your mercy spill on all these burning hearts in hell(Leonard Cohen)

Visual: The firework formed a flower
Auditory: Ice crunched underfoot in the crisp air
Tactile: Soft as a baby's bottom the rock beside the lake
Kenetic: Bent, twisted, climbing convolvulous
Olifactory: I noticed the pungency of his cooking as it escaped through the door
Gustatory: I envied her as cherry juice ran down her cheeks

One begins to get cold feet!!

Love your remark above stan: "we'll both learn something here even if it's by accident "

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And a verse:-

Flickering fireworks filled the sky with light (visual)
as the ice beneath our feet gave sound in unison ( auditory)
like pricks of needles sewing canvas cloth (tactile)
the smooth shine sliding down the river bright, (kenetic)
standing next to old man Denison (olifactory)
whose brackish flavour filled my nostrils, made me cough( gustatory)

Ann.

"The image of yourself which you see in a mirror Is dead,
but the reflection of the moon on water, lives." Kenzan.

I am in awe at your imagination prowess and the resulting verse!

always, Cat

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I see you have an odor you can taste as well. See they cannot be seperated the sense of smell is essential to that of taste
I do like your images here
Chrys

Chrys
Let your mercy spill on all these burning hearts in hell(Leonard Cohen)

Very good grasp of the differences between types.......but in the verse portion I think you mixed the gustatory and olfactory together.........stan

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I like trying to impart imagery into what I write.
Debbie

I think the limit is 10 so join if you can I am sure you're more than welcome. Ann.

"The image of yourself which you see in a mirror Is dead,
but the reflection of the moon on water, lives." Kenzan.

Ann, I am jus full of questions today! How do I join?
Debbie

you send Stan a pm stating you would like to join his workshop it would then be up to him as he is the workshop leader he is the only one that ok's participants

Chrys
Let your mercy spill on all these burning hearts in hell(Leonard Cohen)

No, you're in.............stan

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Oh golly I've forgotten, but stan asked me to join I think I went to 'find a workshop' and found this then asked stan if I could join, I'm not sure.

Why not take part and send your sentences according to the above, I am sure you won't be told off for doing that anyway, all learning is good what?

Ann.

"The image of yourself which you see in a mirror Is dead,
but the reflection of the moon on water, lives." Kenzan.

You're in.

cheers,
Jess
A new workshop on the most important element of poetry-
'Rhythm and Meter in Poetry'
https://www.neopoet.com/workshop/rhythm-and-meter-poetry

forgot you were the boss man of the crew lol
sorrry since I seem to have tunnel vision and live in my own little world

Chrys
Let your mercy spill on all these burning hearts in hell(Leonard Cohen)

visual: I saw her lying there in a heap
auditory: her death rattle reached my ears
tactile: skin so soft like white ashes rubbed between fingers
kenetic: leaves fluttered in the breeze like butterfly wings
olfactory: the damp underbrush reeked of decay
Gustatory: With sharp intake of breath I taste her death

(eddy styx)

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lol stan is going to love the fact that three people have used the sense of smell to taste
as I mentioned to Ann yo cannot separate the two
love the imagery here

Chrys
Let your mercy spill on all these burning hearts in hell(Leonard Cohen)

Visual- The deeply wrinkled face hid so many secrets they would never all be known.
Auditory- His silky whisper in my ear sent thrilling shivers up my spine.
Tactile- Softer than a sigh the mist falls on my upturned face.
Kinetic- Golden fields of wheat fields undulating in the wind.
Olfactory- My nose follows the yeasty smell of home baked bread home.
Gustatory-The cloyingly sweet smell of honeysuckle hangs in the evening air.

WOW! Harder than I thought it would be.

I love these two lines:

Auditory- His silky whisper in my ear sent thrilling shivers up my spine.
Tactile- Softer than a sigh the mist falls on my upturned face.

always. Cat

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I did too, Cat! Feeling overwhelmed... Maybe I will get it right!

No reason to feel overwhelmed. This is a shop whose only goal is to get everybody thinking about imagery and its types and uses so they can use imagery better in the future. Imagery so often is applied carelessly so to think before we wield it will always result in better poetry. e.g. the smell of chocolate in my mouth, the taste of plums bursting in my nose.........Wrong!!! see there Is a difference lol...................stan

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Sorry I was gone for 8 hours gathering sylvan images (or walking in the forest to be exact lol). I surrender in the similarity of taste and smell but ya'll should remember that there IS a difference although subtle. Excepting the gustatory-olfactory thing you have all done well. I just got home 7:00 eastern time. Will allow another hour or so for ya'll to comment further then I'll post subjects. There will be more subjects than needed but if more than one person picks the same subject that's alright as I am sure I can figure out SOME way to make sure poems aren't the same.

Just try your best to stick with only one type imagery in your poems. This is harder than ya'll might think which is why minimum number of verses is set low.............stan

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Here are the subjects to choose from :
Walking on the beach
A rainy day
A beautiful person (man or woman)
Storm's aftermath
A busy city street
Rain on a tin roof
Windy day at the lake
First spring flower
Watching children play
Down wind of the dump
Watching a political debate
A forgotten family plot
Approaching hurricane
Thanksgiving dinner
In a hospital waiting room
* remember that the type imagery I assign might not be the obvious one
** PM me with your choice
***DO NOT start writing until a type imagery is assigned to you
PS after choices are made I will let ya'll vote on the type imagery I must use with my choice (only fair that I squirm along with ya'll lol)

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Oh I wrote a poem on the spot before reading to the bottom of this, I shall se if I can adapt it :) Ann.

"The image of yourself which you see in a mirror Is dead,
but the reflection of the moon on water, lives." Kenzan.

... while I figure out my sentences.

The sense of taste is actually accomplished through several complementary means-
Gustation (or Smatch) by taste buds which are all over the mouth, the roof and sides as well as the tongue.

Smell (as mentioned) by olfactory epithelium in the nose.

Texture through multiple mechanoreceptors.

Temperature by thermoreceptors.

Coolness and hotness through chemesthesis.

I think science figure all of this out just to make poetry harder.
wesley

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Sorry it's in poem form. I know it's not supposed to be, but I couldn't help myself.

He tops the hill and views the Seven Hells. (visual)
Accosted by the ring of Hell’s cruel Bells, (auditory)
he feels the wired hilt of his great sword. (tactile)
The masses kneel as one before their Lord (kenetic)
as wreak of brimstone burns the old man’s nose. (olfactory)
So vile the taste his mouth must tightly close. (gustatory)

wesley

W. H. Snow

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No problem that it's in poem form. As I stated earlier the only reason I asked for sentences or non-connected verse was to make it easier to concentrate on the differences. Now I'll explain why your olfactory and gustatory forms are correct. Although All odors are tiny particles carried to either smell of taste receptors(which is the basis of the ongoing confusion about the differences) one can almost always smell what one tastes but there are many times when the density of the product being smelled is too low to be tasted if product hits taste receptors without contacting smell receptors. In the case of brimstone and other forms of smoke the concentration of particles is almost always dense enough to leave an actual taste on the tongue. Clear as mud? lol.......stan

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You're wreaking havoc with the reeking brimstone

Ian (lol)

TIME FLIES LIKE AN ARROW, BUT FRUIT FLIES LIKE A BANANA

You can do it,you can do it!!
Here you have told a dramatic tale in so few words
and each potent enough to give us great rhythmical
vistas of words dangerously dancing towards horizon, wow.

I don't know what you'd call it but even you must admit
it has much within its hilt !

Nordic cloud in thunderous applause.

"The image of yourself which you see in a mirror Is dead,
but the reflection of the moon on water, lives." Kenzan.

I have begun assigning imagery types to those who have reached the stage where such is needed. ........stan PS I'll be gone a few hours mid evening for birthday dinner..........stan

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twas a sumptuous dinner
I missed it
now
LOLOLOL

loved

I ain't going to barge in
without permission,
as my mind's full of cobwebs
the Internet’s contribution,
What is imagery?
to my shriveled mind,
is not unknown to Neopoet’s of mine
vivid riddles
left to imagination
yours as well as mine,
what imagination
crept in between the crevices
so far sealed
with grim and grime
and
Loved who permits you
now to join,
an imaginary poetics
volatile, explosive
and an intrusive mind.

loved

I liked this very much, the cobwebs of the mind, or vice versa,
A really good poem. Sir.

Ann

"The image of yourself which you see in a mirror Is dead,
but the reflection of the moon on water, lives." Kenzan.

I am just a toddler of poetry
I pray
Do not Sir me,
but I take it as a signal honour
when you traverse my path
once in a way
and
light up my long drawn face
Glad some do read me still.

loved

Why Ma'am me then. I used to go into the village butcher shop and when they said "Can I help you madam," i would reply thank you Sir, didn't see why they could call me madam and I not reciprocate, so I always did. My name is Ann, Squire:)

"The image of yourself which you see in a mirror Is dead,
but the reflection of the moon on water, lives." Kenzan.

lol

loved

As the shop title states this is for eveyone so all are welcome to comment. Those double post are a painaren't they lol........stan

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being removed
my bowed down regrets

don't ............LOLOLOLOL OK
You may

but is my verse any worth your while
you didn't say.

loved

I thought we were supposed to choose from the posted list...

I chose an all visual poem on Storm's Aftermath... here are the results:

Storm's Aftermath: Visual

Leaves torn from the trees
broken branches like disseminated bones
mixed with other debris
both natural and manmade
newspaper pages and paper cups
scattered and tossed by nature's furry
fallen rain drops glistening
on the park bench metal rails
while intermittent puddles
reflect the passing gray clouds
and the sky begins to clear

sorry, Cat

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And responds, please be courteous
And reply in kind, thanks.

You jumped the gun lol. You are correct that you should pick subject from list. But then you should PM me your choice of subject and I'll PM you what type imagery to use. So I'll assume you still want to write on Storm's aftermath and PM you the type imagery to use now.
I guess I need to explain why we're doing it this way......Like any workshop this one has a goal of improvement and expanding horizons. I'll say right now that whatever subject is chosen, I'll pick a type imagery that would not ordinarily be used in writing on the subject. This will "force" folks a bit out of their comfort zone and also get them to consider how different types imagery can be effective in any subject. ............stan

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Scribbler's workshop:

Storms Aftermath: auditory

the winds die down
to a whispering breeze
birds begin to chirp
and sing once again
squirrels chatter
back and forth
as children laugh
in tune with
the ice cream vendor's
cheerful chime
and the world sighs
with a contented relief

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Now if you will be so kind as to post this on stream and hit workshop at bottom of submission page then this old nit picker will be happy lol. By displaying all on stream, non shop participants will have the chance to watch and maybe learn from us...............stan

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The stream will not let me post as I already have a poem (23 hours old) on there. The hard block is in place. So I will have to ask my husband to do it for me later today, as I am having surgery on my eyelids.this morning.

Thanks, Cat

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I had a valve placed in my right eye to conttol glaucoma pressure. Hope sucessful

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Yes the hard block had to be reinstated due to a few members consistently over posting. We are working on exempting workshop poetry but like all things it takes time. I hope you are back to winking soon lol......stan

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Done and posted

Chrys
Let your mercy spill on all these burning hearts in hell(Leonard Cohen)

Thanks..... I will be with holding my comments until tomorrow so as to not interfere with ya'll's interpretations.......stan

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Not fair to not allow ya'll a bit of revenge lol. My pick of subjects is "In a hospital waiting room" Now ya'll PM me with your assignment of type imagery I must use. Whichever type gets most votes by Tues. evening will be announced and is the one I'll use..............stan

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... telepathic?

Stop waving that thing at me, you're gonna poke an eye out.
wesley

W. H. Snow

A poet is a nightingale, who sits in darkness and sings to cheer its own solitude with sweet sounds. Percy Bysshe Shelley

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I was thinking the same thing LMAO............stan

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S.T.D. clinic?

Ian

TIME FLIES LIKE AN ARROW, BUT FRUIT FLIES LIKE A BANANA

Fell asleep a couple of times trying to get it all read lol
Not from boredom this is exciting stuff. Just my eyes tire quickly. If its not too late I would love to join.

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Join on up. Begin with writing your lines/verses using each type imagery then choose a subject from the list and PM me with your subject and I'll PM you with the type imagery to use..................stan

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Visual- what one sees. dinner by ship's window table, a white sunset shimmers on the ocean's blue water

Auditory- what one hears. roaring of the ship's engine gets louder and louder

Tactile- what one feels by touch. the window's glass is cold as I attempt to touch the shimmering light and blue waves of the sea

Kenetic- the forms of motion. sudden rocking of the boat forward, backward, side to side my body adjust without motion pills

Olfactory- what one smells. the stuff flounder on my plate a side of broccolli and garlic bread tickled my nostril's cavity

Gustatory- what one tastes. the crab meat between the tender flounder caused my tastes buds to burst with flavor

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On it now

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Visual- what one sees. dinner by ship's window table, a white sunset shimmers on the ocean's blue water

Auditory- what one hears. roaring of the ship's engine gets louder and louder

Tactile- what one feels by touch. the window's glass is cold as I attempt to touch the shimmering light and blue waves of the sea

Kenetic- the forms of motion. sudden rocking of the boat forward, backward, side to side my body adjust without motion pills

Olfactory- what one smells. the stuff flounder on my plate a side of broccolli and garlic bread tickled my nostril's cavity

Gustatory- what one tastes. the crab meat between the tender flounder caused my tastes buds to burst with flavor

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Your love of the sea shows through in these samples which are on target..............stan PS now time to pick your subject from the list I posted above..........stan

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I hope all here are having fun while exploring imagery. The votes on the imagery I should use for"In a hospital waiting room" was close but olfactory won out by a whiff lol. I'll post tomorrow so ya'll can get the chance to tell Me what I left out lol.............stan

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I have wriiten my poem for the subject you gave
I'm ready to post tomorrow. I see my name hasn't been added yet. Think I need to be added before I can submit to imagery workshop :-)

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Stupid shop leader forgot to add it lol. But he got it fixed now............stan

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My eyes began to focus, my head began to clear -- [ Visual
Ears still ringing from the crack of thunder -- [ Auditory
I felt my heart a jumpin', giving way to fear -- [ Tactile
I smelled the poo and wondered -- [ Olfactory
Did I taste defeat? -- [ Gustatory
Maybe I should run away, before I was dead meat -- [ Kinetic

I know that these are probably on the edge, but....
I think it goes to show the complexity of our language.
Lots words can be taken in so many different contextures

BTW- Where is the list?

There is value to commenting and critique, tell us how you feel about our work.
This must be the place, 'cause there ain't no place like this place anywhere near this place.

Glad you're feelig a bit better. I think you get the imagery in poetry award for subtlty for your list lol. The subject list is approx. 40-45 comment back, not quite half way back to beginning.........stan

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finally got around to writing my assignment. sorry for not taking much part in the convos guys, i've been a little short on time lately.

T paraphrase Gandalf from the ring trilogy "A poet is never late nor early but arrives precisely when they should" LOL..............stan

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EXACTLY

I am astounded how well things are going with everybody's help. I feel as though I rolled a snowball down a hill and have caused an avalanche. Almost like this shop is running itself. Kudos to all..........stan

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Yes you chose a theme that clicked and we are all revelling in it.
I wonder what you have next up your sleeve to pounce on us and challenge us?
Well done and thank you for driving it stan !

Pencilled greys of house and wire,
out today in mist and fog
silhouettes of plants nearby
sharply contrast with the sky.

See? Love ann.

"The image of yourself which you see in a mirror Is dead,
but the reflection of the moon on water, lives." Kenzan.

You mean ya'll expect another shop from me?? I'll try to come up with something a few weeks after we finish this one...........stan

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Oh is it finished with this? It was just warming up. I don't expect anything of you stan, you were good to be game to host a workshop anyway, thank you and you ran it well. Love from me.

Just some more fun.

Clamour of spring ( auditory)
cacophony of birds in woods
the thuds of falling snow
the drips,
the rush of fast flowing rivers
awake all ears, the deers
intensity expectancy anticipation, fears

each movement of the breeze(kinetic)
stirs each living thing
for it is spring again
rebirth renewell
earth her breasts now filled
the sap is risen
the bulbs push out their shoots
the first spring flower roots

"The image of yourself which you see in a mirror Is dead,
but the reflection of the moon on water, lives." Kenzan.

Not done yet but hope to wrap things up next week. There are still rewrites and more commentary and then a survey on the shop and leader

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Let's here it for Stan. This was his first workshop and I for one think he did one hell of a job here

Interesting
Informative
fun
held ones attention

Thanks Stan for a great workshop

One other thing

I am of the mind that you need all of the senses to be able to write a full poem. One helps the other in forming an entire picture. I found after reading the submissions that one could not help beut mix them together.

Chrys
Let your mercy spill on all these burning hearts in hell(Leonard Cohen)

You are correct that using all types imagery results in better poetry. The purpose of this shop is to get folks to thinking about imagery as they use it so as to be more effective in its use. I hope to wrap this up over the weekend so all can get a rest from thinking lol.........stan

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There is no rest from thinking , I think , I think in my sleep how's that onelol
thanks again for a great workshop

Chrys
Let your mercy spill on all these burning hearts in hell(Leonard Cohen)

Great workshop Stan. I learned a lot about imagery . senses, never before had I heard of in poetry. I thinked a lot and had fun in your first workshop. Thanks for getting in at the last minute

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I had fun looking up the terms of poetry
connected with imagery too.

We have all appreciated your choice stan,
well done too

Ann.

"The image of yourself which you see in a mirror Is dead,
but the reflection of the moon on water, lives." Kenzan.

great workshop! hope you do another.

Great workshop (all though it is my first) I have really enjoyed it... I feel like it has made me see a bit more clearly that it is VERY difficult to write a poem using only one form of imagery. Try as you might to keep to only visual, some other form slips in to the project in an effort to more clearly communicate what the author is attempting write. Just what I have discovered. ;-)
Deb

S .... sight(visual)

T .....tactile(touch)

A ......audio(hearing)

N ....Nasal(smell)

Go Stan GO

Ian

TIME FLIES LIKE AN ARROW, BUT FRUIT FLIES LIKE A BANANA

I would like to tell all the participants that my two poems for the immagery workshop have been posted (on the same page, one above the other) and are ready for critique. They are clearly labled as workshop poems: "Storm's Aftermath"

Thanks, Cat

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And responds, please be courteous
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I guess as soon as we all leave commentary on Cat's poems we can bring this to a close. It has been fun working with(read torturing lol) ya'll and I hope we all learned a better appreciation for the use of specific types of imagery. It was YA'LL who made this a success and for that I thank you. 'Ol scribbler will now retreat to his lonely corner and try to come up with another way in which ya'll can make me look good in a future shop lol.............stan

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I rewrite my comment to you on my last poem ...Thank you for your reply stan, you have truly made us all think 'imagery' and that surely will have enriched our minds as regards poetry we continue to write; your idea of a workshop on that was brilliant, and as you see caused great response. Perhaps a less dry subject than some others, but it takes all sorts.

Thank you again for all, Ann.
And thank you ALL for taking part so well too, I felt we were waltzing together!
Now we shall dance into Spring with a spring in our feet.

"The image of yourself which you see in a mirror Is dead,
but the reflection of the moon on water, lives." Kenzan.

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